Paco Alcácer

[God Serena]

I never suggested those things though. The only thing I wanted to point out is that Barcelona's system takes time to adapt, and Suarez was just another example of that.
Far too soon to judge Paco.

You suggested those things just by bringing it up. Why else would you say it? Otherwise you're just saying nonsense for the sake of it.

Paco was mediocre at best while at Valencia and the excuse was "Well he had a bad team", but now that he's shit for us the excuse is "Well even Suarez was bad at first".

At what point do we recognize he just isn't a good player? He lacks very many things needed to be successful as a forward here and no amount of excuses can wave away not even being part of the game when you're out there.

When we signed Paco someone here excitedly declared we finally have four great forwards now. Where is he now?

 

[Horatio]

I am just going to wait a couple of matches and will come back to you then. Yeah...that's the easiest way to go about this. I remember the Ter Stegen thread fiasco.

 

[God Serena]

Which one? There's a difference between a player having a hard time adapting or what have you, and a player having a few bad games.

 

[Horatio]

The one where it's only fair to give him a few more games.

 

[Vlom]

Struggling a bit, but given the Arditic theoreme (a few months needed to gel into the team) let's just wait and see.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

Very anonymous but i dont suppose a player to come in and make an immediate impact always. In this case his maturity and development arent what other players have so it will take some patience and trust from coach.

 

[Kramnik]

As much as I want the guy to succeed in this club, I can't help but be alarmed at how little of the ball he has had thus far. Take a look at these stats:

vs Alaves: 66 minutes played, 16 touches, 13 passes, 1 shot
vs Leganes: 34 minutes played, 4 touches, 2 passes
vs Sporting: 18 minutes played, 5 touches, 4 passes, 1 shot
vs Gladbach: 51 minutes played, 7 touches, 4 passes, 1 shot

He's so invisible that I can't figure out what's wrong. Either he does not do enough off the ball movements to get into positions where he'd receive the ball more comfortably or the teammates do not trust him enough to pass to him more often. Either way, this situation seems very unusual to me, because with all the other new signings' games you can at least see them in action, but with Alcacer you can't even judge him because it doesn't feel like he even played any matches for Barcelona. Hopefully Lucho is working on how to insert Paco into the team tactically, because it'd be a waste if he became a failure due to his scant involvement in the teamplay, which is why I do want to see him play more often.

 

[Messi983]

Paco was bad yesterday but way to early to give up on him or to fairly judge his performance in a game where Suarez, Ney and whole midfield also had a bad day. It also probably wasn't the best game for Lucho to experiment with that 4-4-2 formation but I still think Suarez and Paco can play together upfront if/when Neymar will play better and especially when Messi will be there as "10" behind them so I hope Lucho won't give up on that. It's much better than 3-4-3 we played against Leganes if we want to have an alternative formation to 4-3-3.

So far Paco played 4 games, two of them (Alaves, Gladbach) he started were our worst performances of the season so far. Yes, we can say it's also up on him but it would be very unfair to say we played those games bad just because of Paco being in the lineup. And against Sporting and Leganes he came on when the games were already decided and other players stoped to play seriously so again hard to judge him. Still, he was close to score a couple of times.

He's only been training with team for around 3 weeks and played in 4 games so if that's enough for some of you to already say he's a bad transfer and will never make it here then ok. But I think it's only fair to give him more time to adapt and show what he's capable of. People were also ready to give up on Roberto, Arda and even Munir (who now they'd rather have than Paco) less than a year ago. Eventually they've all proved doubters wrong. I think Paco will do the same if given a fair chance.

 

[Raketa10]

Some people really do not have one bit of patience...cant you just give 6 months to this guy to judge him?!

Last year people were also shitting on Arda and he was already proven player when he arrived and where are those people now??? I believe Paco can be good No.9 for us but he just needs time.

And regarding Munir how is he playing for Valencia?! How many goals has he scored?!?! And yes I agree that Munir is better on LW/RW but we already have Arda, Denis and Rafinha in this position!!!

C'mon guys even Neymar and Suarez who are among 5 best players in the world needed time to adapt! Give him a chance for f... sake it's not like we bought Douglas 2.0!!!

His biggest problem is that we gave Munir for him and some people can't accept that, although they were laughing to Munir for the major part of last season. I also do not agree that he is slow, to me he looks faster than Munir but maybe I am wrong regarding this fact.

Did we make a good decision buying Paco and selling (if they buy him) Munir I don't know but the fact I know is that you can't judge a player after 3 weeks and 170 minutes he played for us.

 

[barcafan161]

People need to realise this isn't fifa..players don't slot in and look great straight away.

 

[ZenI]

Some people really do not have one bit of patience...cant you just give 6 months to this guy to judge him?!

Last year people were also shitting on Arda and he was already proven player when he arrived and where are those people now??? I believe Paco can be good No.9 for us but he just needs time.

And regarding Munir how is he playing for Valencia?! How many goals has he scored?!?! And yes I agree that Munir is better on LW/RW but we already have Arda, Denis and Rafinha in this position!!!

C'mon guys even Neymar and Suarez who are among 5 best players in the world needed time to adapt! Give him a chance for f... sake it's not like we bought Douglas 2.0!!!

His biggest problem is that we gave Munir for him and some people can't accept that, although they were laughing to Munir for the major part of last season. I also do not agree that he is slow, to me he looks faster than Munir but maybe I am wrong regarding this fact.

Did we make a good decision buying Paco and selling (if they buy him) Munir I don't know but the fact I know is that you can't judge a player after 3 weeks and 170 minutes he played for us.

With Arda it was disappointment that he didn't bring to the table we've all seen year after year in Atletico. We all knew he was a very technical player. With Paco? Not so much. As soon as the rumours turned up I was disappointed. He's a a fit for Valencia, Sevilla, Tottenham or Everton - not Barca, not in a million years. We should have kept Munir and bought a fast winger with great technique and dribbling.

 

[Kramnik]

C'mon guys even Neymar and Suarez who are among 5 best players in the world needed time to adapt! Give him a chance for f... sake it's not like we bought Douglas 2.0!!!

To be fair, the common reaction to new signings is that people are instantly impressed with their first games saying that it feels like the new players have played for Barca for ages etc etc, but a couple of games later people backpedal on their opinion saying that those players need time and asking how we could expect anybody to adapt to the team so quickly when even the greatest footballers in the world took time to do so. This was no exception in Neymar's or Suarez's cases from what I remember.

Personally, no matter what people say, I liked Suarez even in the first matches he played for us, and the positive impact on the team was already noticeable even with the unpolished tactics, and to me it was already clear then that Suarez was going to become a fantastic asset for our team. Most importantly, I could see his willingness to adapt to Barca's unselfish playing style (not sure how unselfish he was in Liverpool because I didn't follow him closely), which is why giving him time and not blaming him for the lack of goals was logical.

On the other hand, Paco's case is completely different from any other case I've witnessed, because I can't even say anything about him at all since he simply has not had enough of the ball yet. I don't see any positive impact on the team or his willingness to adapt either, but then again, I agree that it's too early to say anything about the player, and paradoxically I want to see him on the pitch more often to satisfy my curiosity about his invisibility.

 

[Antimadridista1]

Only people who played football in real life and not only on FIFA will understand how tough it is for a striker to shine, even more when you play for Barcelona and that you're in the middle of 11 players trying not to let you have any space.

Football is not easy guys, let's wait and see, and try to support our new players.

 

[Barcaman]

It's not that he isn't shining. He can't be seen at all. But I agree, it's early days.

 

[God Serena]

Only people who played football in real life and not only on FIFA will understand how tough it is for a striker to shine, even more when you play for Barcelona and that you're in the middle of 11 players trying not to let you have any space.

Football is not easy guys, let's wait and see, and try to support our new players.

I've played football since I was 5 years old but yeah let's try to use the bullshit "You've never played" argument.

He didn't show us anything at Valencia to suggest he'd be a good fit here and now that he's here he's showing he's not a good fit. It's not exactly rocket science.