EdmondDantes
New member
Real VARdrid at full force tonight.
Penal Madrid
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te amo barca
Blaugrana al vent
If they win CL again just cancel the competition 
Messigician
Senior Member
Fuck UEFAMADRID
They didn't step up...the refs started to step up...just look at last night how comical...
Pk could have been given when Ramos grabbed the Ajax player by the shoulder lost his balance before he hit the post...the offside call when he is running from his own half...the disallowed goal... most of the calls going to rm with every contact...every year it's becoming the same story now it's ridiculous
Pk could have been given when Ramos grabbed the Ajax player by the shoulder lost his balance before he hit the post...the offside call when he is running from his own half...the disallowed goal... most of the calls going to rm with every contact...every year it's becoming the same story now it's ridiculous
Barcilliant
Senior Member
Vardrid are the official club of Uefa that's for sure.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Real Madrid sourced €575m loan from the US for Bernabeu redevelopment, reportedly on a 30-year term with 2.5% interest rate
http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/real-madrid-bernabeu-redevelopment-loan
http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/real-madrid-bernabeu-redevelopment-loan
El Gato
Villarato!
Kind of old news. Only new thing about it is where the money comes from. Club had permission to seek out the long-term loan since the socio meeting in September.
At least it's going to go ahead now and not be a "sometime in the future" deal. If news is confirmed, all is left is selecting the companies that will do the redevelopment job. Works are supposed to last 3.5 years so best we get onto it before Perez hits 80...
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soul24rage
Senior Member
Real Madrid Quadruple Winner 2019.
EDIT: my bad [MENTION=18429]Morten[/MENTION]
EDIT: my bad [MENTION=18429]Morten[/MENTION]
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Quadruple winner, thank you very much, we didnt win the glorious CWC only for it to be forgotten like that.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Good for you guys, looks like you are getting a head start ahead of us.
Meanwhile we still don't know when or IF we will get a stadium naming right deal at all and even if we did, where we are going to cough up the other 300m from. I don't think we can even finish the New Camp Nou by 2023 by the looks of things right now.
I really like the idea of new Bernabeu having lots of retail stores, that rent and % of store revenue along will be generating a lot of money. Perhaps this is what Perez meant by generating 150m MORE every year. We should do the same.
Leo_Messi
New member
Good for you guys, looks like you are getting a head start ahead of us.
Meanwhile we still don't know when or IF we will get a stadium naming right deal at all and even if we did, where we are going to cough up the other 300m from. I don't think we can even finish the New Camp Nou by 2023 by the looks of things right now.
I really like the idea of new Bernabeu having lots of retail stores, that rent and % of store revenue along will be generating a lot of money. Perhaps this is what Perez meant by generating 150m MORE every year. We should do the same.
Will you take offense if I say that you are one of the most pessimistic users around here, Luft?
RM does not have any head start. In fact we are closer to securing an all-time high price for the naming rights of Camp Nou. Both Sport and MD had an article about that not long ago. Likewise our stadium project is more advanced and faces less obstacles from the city council. A bigger project too and more multi-dimensional given that it involves the Palau as well.
Espai will have the same rental stores last time I checked unless they have changed this idea which I highly doubt.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Nah, everyone here knows that I am pessimistic.
But I'd like to think that I am not as pessimistic as those who automatically predicted that Real Madrid would win the CL as soon as they won a CL elimination ground game. I think I read that article you referred to too, but it was at least a couple of months ago if not older and nothing has come to fruition since. And if my memory serves me correctly it was supposed to bring in 200m for us in the next 20 years, right? That leaves us 300m more that we need to come up with from our own coffers as I believe the total cost estimated for the Espai Project is around 500m, right? I just don't know where that 300m is going to come from. Perhaps we too will have to get a loan.
Nice to know that our new stadium will also have retail stores. I wasn't sure.
Leo_Messi
New member
Nah, everyone here knows that I am pessimistic.
I think I read that article you referred to too, but it was at least a couple of months ago if not older and nothing has come to fruition since. And if my memory serves me correctly it was supposed to bring in 200m for us in the next 20 years, right? That leaves us 300m more that we need to come up with from our own coffers as I believe the total cost estimated for the Espai Project is around 500m, right? I just don't know where that 300m is going to come from. Perhaps we too will have to get a loan.
Nice to know that our new stadium will also have retail stores. I wasn't sure.
I think that all of us are pessimistic to a certain degree but I have just noticed you being that fairly often when there is no need to be that. At times we need to remind ourselves of which club we are supporting. The most successful club in Europe based on trophies (domestic, European and international ones), number of Ballon d'Or winners, number of legendary players (arguably), dynasties, most impactful playing style, arguably the most talked about manager in Pep etc. in the past 30 years. With a booming economy and more young fans than any other club going by the data online from social media etc.
Now about to have a complete new stadium that remains the largest in Europe (slightly larger even than the current version) with likely a record naming rights deal. A new board no later than 2021 as well. BCN remaining the most visited city by tourists in Spain. A wage bill that will be reduced by over 50% when the seniors leave etc. Catalonia remaining the economic backbone of Spain. Lots of things to be positive about. Catalan businessmen are better at doing what they are doing and Catalans better at earning money than anyone else in Spain. RM is much more dependent on a 71 year old Pérez than we are on any person. They will have a really hard time replacing him and the network that he has built, believe me. Ever since his wife passed away he has been fully dedicated on RM more or less. They will have a really hard time finding such a person anytime soon.
Nah, it was just a few weeks ago. I will try to find it in order to show it to you. No, an even greater number.
The club claims that the Espai Project will cost €360 million. So quite a difference from €500 million.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-s...l-plans-for-espai-barca-project-idUKKCN1MU0GP
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