Pep Guardiola

[Cule4life]

It’s a tough one though because small technical team in Ajax beat tall physical Juventus who can cross... and Atlético the other physical team are out too.

Also Pep lost the first leg cos he tried to be conservative. Cognitive dissonance loading......

 

[CatalinR10]

Champions league games and Fraudiola exposed in them .


Can't find a better duo.

 

[michelco]

Just a Quique Setien but with money

 

[Morten]

Just goes to show how easy its to coach Barca, Pep is a good coach but Barca basically guarantees sucess.
No coach has ever done better, before or after coaching Barca, Barca is the easiest "coaching" job in the world.

 

[FCB1987]

his celebration after the Sterling "winner"

 

[BBZ8800]

It’s a tough one though because small technical team in Ajax beat tall physical Juventus who can cross... and Atlético the other physical team are out too.

Ajax is techical, nice passing and good off the ball movement team.
But, they are not a team of short players.

Midfielders and attackers:
De Beek 184
Frenkie 181
Tadic 181
Zyech 181
Schone 178

Only Neres is 175.

I don't have anything against technical players.
As long as we don't play with Puig-Arthur-David Silva midfield in terms of height and strength.

While Pep has a fetish on short, light and technical players.
City's midfield and attack tonight:
Aguero 173
Bernardo 173
David Silva 173
Sterling 170

De Bruyne 181
Gundogan 180

Tottenham, for example:
Alli 188
Wanyama 188
Sissoko 187
Son 183
Eriksen 181

Only Moura 173, who plays instead of injured Kane 188.

I know, it is not all about height.
But I just hate Pep's football built around short, light players.
It works good in La liga where they are running easily around crappy opponents.

In a CL, without Messi, Pep's teams are beaten this or that way every time.

By the way, Pep's system and his crazy too attacking CL's approach conceded:
6 goals from Monaco in 2017
5 goals from Liverpool in 2018
4 goals from Tottenham in 2019

And he didn't even face top tier teams like Barca, Real, Bayern, Atletico.

His football is awesome for league championship.
His football is quite questionable for a CL level, unless if he has Messi and the best midfield ever to save his ass.

And yet people are calling EV "Retardo".
Our coach is at least trying to learn on his mistakes.

When has Pep ever learned something?
He plays the same overly attacking football all the time, with exactly the same type of light players all the time.

 

[Devils]

He bring the levels attacking players like Sterling, KDB, Aguero and Sane up by multitudes but always leaves his defensive players shaky and error-prone.

Such are the days of defenselessiola i guess. SMH.

 

[Altomonte]

today he was also let down by his GK

 

[gregorrin10]

I still love Pep, but his tactics, even though still beautiful, are flawed and are getting more and more exposed in the CL, first at Bayern, now at City. The lack of plan B especially keeps hurting Pep's teams. I'm not saying I don't want Pep back at Barca one day, but right now I must say that Ten Hag excites me even more.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Ajax is techical, nice passing and good off the ball movement team.
But, they are not a team of short players.

Midfielders and attackers:
De Beek 184
Frenkie 181
Tadic 181
Zyech 181
Schone 178

Only Neres is 175.

I don't have anything against technical players.
As long as we don't play with Puig-Arthur-David Silva midfield in terms of height and strength.

While Pep has a fetish on short, light and technical players.
City's midfield and attack tonight:
Aguero 173
Bernardo 173
David Silva 173
Sterling 170

De Bruyne 181
Gundogan 180

Tottenham, for example:
Alli 188
Wanyama 188
Sissoko 187
Son 183
Eriksen 181

Only Moura 173, who plays instead of injured Kane 188.

I know, it is not all about height.
But I just hate Pep's football built around short, light players.
It works good in La liga where they are running easily around crappy opponents.

In a CL, without Messi, Pep's teams are beaten this or that way every time.

By the way, Pep's system and his crazy too attacking CL's approach conceded:
6 goals from Monaco in 2017
5 goals from Liverpool in 2018
4 goals from Tottenham in 2019

And he didn't even face top tier teams like Barca, Real, Bayern, Atletico.

His football is awesome for league championship.
His football is quite questionable for a CL level, unless if he has Messi and the best midfield ever to save his ass.

And yet people are calling EV "Retardo".
Our coach is at least trying to learn on his mistakes.

When has Pep ever learned something?
He plays the same overly attacking football all the time, with exactly the same type of light players all the time.

How short was his Bayern teams? Not that short I assume.

 

[Nothanks]

he hasn't done anything that great in the CL since leaving us..
he would of benefited so much by staying here with messi a late xavi and still good iniesta.

 

[BBZ8800]

How short was his Bayern teams? Not that short I assume.

He wasn't allow to sell Bayern's players, who are usually quite tall.
Bayern's directors allow you to buy 3-4 players, but that's it.
At Barca and City, Pep sold majority of former players and has built a team based on his ideas.
That usually means David Silva type of players.

But even at Bayern he played his crazy all out attack possession based football with a risky high defensive line.

His ALL knockout matches post Barca:

2014:
Arsenal 2:0, 1:1
Man Utd 3:1, 1:1
Real 0:1, 0:4

2015:
Shakhtar 0:0, 7:0
Porto 1:3, 6:1
Barca 0:3, 3:2

2016:
Juve 2:2, 4:2
Benfica 1:0, 2:2
Atletico 0:1, 2:1

2017: City
Monaco 5:3, 1:3

2018: City
Basel 4:0, 1:2
Liverpool 0:3, 1:2

2019: City
Schalke 3:2, 7:0
Tottenham 0:1, 4:3

So, Pep's total score since Barca in CL knockout rounds is:
28 games
13 wins, 5 draws, 10 defeats
Basically, his win vs loss ratio is 13:10 since Barca.

His goals ratio in these 28 KO matches is:
61:45

But, if you remove monkey-easy matches against Shakhtar (0:0 and 7:0), Basel (4:0 and 1:2) Schalke (3:2 and 7:0) and Benfica (1:0, 2:2) his total goals ratio in a CL post Barca (against semi decent clubs) is:
32:35

So, Pep's goal score vs Real, Man Utd, Arsenal (2014), Porto, Barca (2015), Juve, Atletico (2016), Monaco (2017), Liverpool (2018), Tottenham (2019) is:
8 wins, 3 draws, 9 defeats.
And a negative goals ratio of a total: 32:35

So, more or less, Pep and his teams POST BARCA, in a CL are at 50:50 or 45:55 against any average European team.
And statistically, he will concede 2 goals on average in every single KO match, with every match on average ending 1:2 or 2:2 and an average score over 2 legs will be 3:4 for his opponents.
More or less, this is exactly what is happening with his teams all the time.

Over 28 KO matches, he managed to keep a clean sheet only 6 times.
Against Shakthar, Shakhtar, Basel, Schalke, Benfica and Arsenal.
In 20 KO matches against strong or semi strong European teams: (Barca, Real, Man Utd, Arsenal, Juve, Atletico, Liverpool, Tottenham, Porto, Monaco):
He managed to have 1 clean sheet, lol.

On the other hand, EV managed to have 4 clean sheets out of his 8 CL KO matches in total (Chelsea, Roma, Lyon, Man Utd)

But hey, Pep's teams move better off the ball and play a nicer football...

 

[BarcaOG]

just cant hack it in the CL. great (maybe the best ever) league coach though

 

[Nothanks]

considering he's already spent 700m+ on his tenure in city of course he'd do well in the league.
he's given godlike freedom in city he is expected to do better.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

He wasn't allow to sell Bayern's players, who are usually quite tall.
Bayern's directors allow you to buy 3-4 players, but that's it.
At Barca and City, Pep sold majority of former players and has built a team based on his ideas.
That usually means David Silva type of players.

But even at Bayern he played his crazy all out attack possession based football with a risky high defensive line.

His ALL knockout matches post Barca:

2014:
Arsenal 2:0, 1:1
Man Utd 3:1, 1:1
Real 0:1, 0:4

2015:
Shakhtar 0:0, 7:0
Porto 1:3, 6:1
Barca 0:3, 3:2

2016:
Juve 2:2, 4:2
Benfica 1:0, 2:2
Atletico 0:1, 2:1

2017: City
Monaco 5:3, 1:3

2018: City
Basel 4:0, 1:2
Liverpool 0:3, 1:2

2019: City
Schalke 3:2, 7:0
Tottenham 0:1, 4:3

So, Pep's total score since Barca in CL knockout rounds is:
28 games
13 wins, 5 draws, 10 defeats
Basically, his win vs loss ratio is 13:10 since Barca.

His goals ratio in these 28 KO matches is:
61:45

But, if you remove monkey-easy matches against Shakhtar (0:0 and 7:0), Basel (4:0 and 1:2) Schalke (3:2 and 7:0) and Benfica (1:0, 2:2) his total goals ratio in a CL post Barca (against semi decent clubs) is:
32:35

So, Pep's goal score vs Real, Man Utd, Arsenal (2014), Porto, Barca (2015), Juve, Atletico (2016), Monaco (2017), Liverpool (2018), Tottenham (2019) is:
8 wins, 3 draws, 9 defeats.
And a negative goals ratio of a total: 32:35

So, more or less, Pep and his teams POST BARCA, in a CL are at 50:50 or 45:55 against any average European team.
And statistically, he will concede 2 goals on average in every single KO match, with every match on average ending 1:2 or 2:2 and an average score over 2 legs will be 3:4 for his opponents.
More or less, this is exactly what is happening with his teams all the time.

Over 28 KO matches, he managed to keep a clean sheet only 6 times.
Against Shakthar, Shakhtar, Basel, Schalke, Benfica and Arsenal.
In 20 KO matches against strong or semi strong European teams: (Barca, Real, Man Utd, Arsenal, Juve, Atletico, Liverpool, Tottenham, Porto, Monaco):
He managed to have 1 clean sheet, lol.

On the other hand, EV managed to have 4 clean sheets out of his 8 CL KO matches in total (Chelsea, Roma, Lyon, Man Utd)

But hey, Pep's teams move better off the ball and play a nicer football...

Wow. Great post. Interesting statistics.