Pep Guardiola

Valiant

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Everton, Napoli

Kloppo is way better for these teams, i think its impossible that he would flop in any club

Carlo has the calmness and charisma in big ucl games which is very important to calm down the players, Zidane has this too - thats why both are so successful in cl
Simple logic chief
Ancelotti has failed in any club that is not Madrid or Galactico super-star stacked, like Milan of 00s or Chelsea later.

Klopp, on the other hand, has proven he can succeed at any level tier 3, tier 2, tier 1, and can work miracles with minimal budget. Whoever has any doubt Klopp would kill it at Madrid or Barca, doesn't understand football frankly

PS: Again, think how many top tier clubs want Ancelotti: ZERO, NADA 0
his offer are from Brazil NT and the like.
How many top clubs were ready to kill for Klopp last summer had he not declared a break?

Yah, you have your answer

1. Ancelotti has shown that he is capable of adding his tactics to fit his team. That is why he has been successful wherever he goes. Klopp on the other hand is insistent on his gegenpressing style which works very well at the beginning of his tenure, but later his players crash and burn. Saw it with Liverpool in the 20/21 season where they almost failed to reach top 4 and in the 22/23 season where they went to the europa league, saw it with dortmund in his final season where they finished 7th and his players were burnt out, saw it with mainz when they ended up getting relegated under him and he jumped ship

2. Ancelloti so far is the only manager to win a league title in each of Europe's top 5 leagues. Klopp is not yet at that level

3. Ancelloti has made it to six CL finals and lost only one, while klopp made it to four and lost three, with two of them being with his Liverpool side

4. Ancelloti has the longevity factor on his side, something that klopp doesn't. Ancelloti is also regarded as one of the best man managers in the world. Klopp is a manager that's well known for running his players into the ground. Ancelloti has also produced at least one Balon d'Or winner if you don't count Ronaldo.

When klopp gets to this level, then we can have this conversation again. Until then, he's firmly behind ancelloti
 

Joan

Well-known member
If you had to pick the next Barcelona manager after Hansi, who would you choose, Carlo or Klopp?

Bonus option: Zidane, but you have to rank them.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
1. Ancelotti has shown that he is capable of adding his tactics to fit his team. That is why he has been successful wherever he goes. Klopp on the other hand is insistent on his gegenpressing style which works very well at the beginning of his tenure, but later his players crash and burn. Saw it with Liverpool in the 20/21 season where they almost failed to reach top 4 and in the 22/23 season where they went to the europa league, saw it with dortmund in his final season where they finished 7th and his players were burnt out, saw it with mainz when they ended up getting relegated under him and he jumped ship

2. Ancelloti so far is the only manager to win a league title in each of Europe's top 5 leagues. Klopp is not yet at that level

3. Ancelloti has made it to six CL finals and lost only one, while klopp made it to four and lost three, with two of them being with his Liverpool side

4. Ancelloti has the longevity factor on his side, something that klopp doesn't. Ancelloti is also regarded as one of the best man managers in the world. Klopp is a manager that's well known for running his players into the ground. Ancelloti has also produced at least one Balon d'Or winner if you don't count Ronaldo.

When klopp gets to this level, then we can have this conversation again. Until then, he's firmly behind ancelloti
1. Any great coach is insistent in his idea of football: Pep, Klopp, Slot, Lucho, Flick, you name it...
And any style has its pros and its cons, that's irrelevant
On the contrary, a coach that has no tactical identity is spineless, and doesn't deserve a place in the hall of fame.
Ancelotti had some tactical ID back in his Milan days.
All that has gradually evaporated, and his tactics nowadays are simple sterile 4-4-2 w/o the ball, 'give it to attackers and let them do what they want' with the ball

2. Great achievement, but Ancelotti is some years older and who doubts Klopp could have done it had he coached in Spain and Italy in addition?
Plus, having so few TOTAL league titles in so many years of coaching is a big red flag for Ancelotti

3. Klopp was really unlucky in the 2 finals against Madrid, especially the 2022 one, and the other final no coach could win against that Bayern with a Dortmund squad.

4. Yes, great man manager, but outdated tactically. That's why only Brazil NT is interested in him. a Man-manager can still do well in NT competitions

But you forget the basic factor I pointed out:
Klopp could have swept all titles with Madrid, with superstar-stacked Milans and Chelseas of Ancelotti.
Ancelotti could NEVER do what Klopp did at all of Mainz, BvB, and Liverpool, THOUGH,
and that's what separates them

Ancelotti can't reach the level of Klopp no matter how many CLs he wins with Madrid
 

M3ls

Well-known member
With Barca, he can't win CL brother
We are not Madrid
Barca wins CL only when we are the best team in Europe

Is it true. If we take the last 6 victories of Real Madrid in the Champions League, then they were the best team in the world or in the top 2 only 1-2 times.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Is it true. If we take the last 6 victories of Real Madrid in the Champions League, then they were the best team in the world or in the top 2 only 1-2 times.

Madrid won CL as the best team in Europe only TWO times the last 30 years:
2017
2002

That's it

Barca won CL as the best team in Europe HANDS DOWN in:
2015
2011
2009
2006
1992

That is EACH and EVERY time we won CL
 

RedxMAK

Well-known member
Pep Guardiola leaving Barcelona because of Mourinho has to be one of the biggest lies ever told. Pep left Barcelona mainly due to his tacky relationship with Rosell and not entirely due to Mourinho.
 

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