Pep Guardiola
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Birdy
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Which instantly proves the fault of that logic
jamrock
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I am not gonna be able to sleep tonight knowing that '99% of people here have no respect for my opinion'
It's so hard to take
Ask yourself something to see how much nonsense you write:
How many teams from the top tier of football would kill for Klopp taking them over last summer?
How many from the same tier would do the same for Carlo?
Do it as a thought experiment, and there you have your answer about how their size compares.
Not even talking about legacies now
PS:
'Jose'
The guy that has been 'past it' the last 10 years and more, and still continues to embarrass himself with new jobs
So your "he brought clubs to heights no other manager could" gets easily defeated, so your argument is now recency bias.
More clubs would want yamal over Messi last summer, I guess that makes yamal better.
Liverpool under rafa
2 CL finals 1 win
1 FA Cup
1 super league
A few points away from winning a league title.
Rogers if memory serves me right, a Steven Gerard slip from winning the league title.
Klopp CL win vs Spurs and a Covid EPL
Jose take further confirms recency bias lol.
Carlo is one of the best coaches in the world right now and one of the greatest ever.
Klopp does not sit at the table with those managers, in terms of all times great.
But keep telling us now losing as a manager is better than winning
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Temptation
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Nope. That's unfair.
Carlo has been successful over a long period of time with many different clubs and teams in 3/4 different decades.
Zizou was lucky to find lightning in a bottle for a 4 year period. Not remotely comparable and totally unfair to Carlo.
Temptation
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Birdy
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Keep writing nonsense...
- 'Gets easily defeated'
How? Find me the coaches who have also done it to see how defeasible it is
- Rafa was a decent coach in the early 2000s with horrible football.
1 lucky CL, 1 FA won by Gerrard himself.
Few tiers below, can't be part of conversation
- Rodgers played great football, he deserved more years at top tier teams to judge him.
Still won't sit in the same table with Kloppo until he does something similar
- Jose was a top manager (with horrendous football) from early 00s until circa 2012 or 2013 when he left Madrid.
Since then, it has been a more emphatic downfall each time.
- Carlo is not even close to being one of the best coaches in the world now, let alone in the same conversation with Pep and Klopp. The proof is in my previous post. Ask yourself how many top team would hire him NOW and you have your answer
Now, if you want to talk historically we could.
Then you have to take into accounts more factors than 'number of titles won,' let alone 'number of CLs won' which in your limited understanding is the only criterion.
But you keep jumping from historical assessment of a coach's legacy to the discussion 'best coaches in the world right now'
So decide first, and then start instilling some order in your nonsensical posts
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Well said Tempteboy
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