Pep Guardiola

jamrock

Senior Member
I just cited 3 achievements in Klopp's career with different teams at different tiers that Carlo would not be able to do in 5 lifes. I did not even talk about how he changed football itself

Carlo WAS once a good tactician (back in early 2000s) but has stopped being one since more than 10 years ago.
We saw his real level at Napoli and Everton.

PS: You are damn clueless about football.
Friendly advise: Change sport

Birdie klopp>Carlo

Also birdie

I know ball

😂 😂 😂 😂.

I wonder if you heard yourself while typing that.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Birdie klopp>Carlo

Also birdie

I know ball

😂 😂 😂 😂.

I wonder if you heard yourself while typing that.

Dude, you are spamming replies without any substance.
I am not Jammy. You can't discuss with me when you have 0 arguments.
Either find one, or SU and accept that you write nonsense

I gave you 3 achievements of Klopp that Carlo could have never done.
What's your reply to that? NOTHING

Besides the fact that it is totally clueless to belittle a coach that tactically changed the way the sport is being played
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Dude, you are spamming replies without any substance.
I am not Jammy. You can't discuss with me when you have 0 arguments.
Either find one, or SU and accept that you write nonsense

I gave you 3 achievements of Klopp that Carlo could have never done.
What's your reply to that? NOTHING

Besides the fact that it is totally clueless to belittle a coach that tactically changed the way the sport is being played

I don't need to reply to none sense.
Klopp elevated teams that won league titles and or CL titles years before he became manager to heights no other coach could 😂 😂.


Like I said I like 99% of player here, have no respect for your opinions on coaches.

While typing this I just remembered your said Aston Villa would beat The galacticos.

too many shit takes by you around coaches for anyone to take you seriously on this matter
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Carlo has 7 CLs (SEVEN) as manager + player (starter in THAT Milan side)

Klopp can’t sit at the same table, I’m sorry :lol:
Birdie is a waste of time in this subject.

This is man that said pep isn't as good as we make out because he had great players.

Basically the one thing ALL great coaches have in common.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Klopp and his win in the CL final vs Spurs, after Valverde literally gave him the SF and covid EPL title.

Is better than Carlo who beat him multiple times and has multiple CL titles & a league title in every major European league.

Greats (pep,Carlo,Jose) don't need coulda woulda shoulda to fill out their resumes.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Depends on the club



If it's a club like Real Madrid then Carlo is the right choice.


If it's a club like Atletico Madrid then Klopp is the right choice.


Klopp is the best manager for underdogs(relatively speaking) that need to punch above their weight.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Depends on the club



If it's a club like Real Madrid then Carlo is the right choice.


If it's a club like Atletico Madrid then Klopp is the right choice.


Klopp is the best manager for underdogs(relatively speaking) that need to punch above their weight.

Not only.

You doubt he would have won massive titles with Barca or Madrid?
Had he coached one of the two the last 10 years he was at Pool, he would have totally annihilated the league, and collected few CLs on top of that

Something anyone with a brain about football can understand
 

Birdy

Senior Member
I don't need to reply to none sense.
Klopp elevated teams that won league titles and or CL titles years before he became manager to heights no other coach could 😂 😂.


Like I said I like 99% of player here, have no respect for your opinions on coaches.

While typing this I just remembered your said Aston Villa would beat The galacticos.

too many shit takes by you around coaches for anyone to take you seriously on this matter

I am not gonna be able to sleep tonight knowing that '99% of people here have no respect for my opinion'
It's so hard to take :lol:

Ask yourself something to see how much nonsense you write:
How many teams from the top tier of football would kill for Klopp taking them over last summer?
How many from the same tier would do the same for Carlo?

Do it as a thought experiment, and there you have your answer about how their size compares.
Not even talking about legacies now

PS:
Greats (pep,Carlo,Jose)

'Jose' :lol:
The guy that has been 'past it' the last 10 years and more, and still continues to embarrass himself with new jobs
 
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Temptation

Well-known member
Carlo is actually a pretty average league manager.


Despite coaching the best squads in the world with all time greats, his league record isn't very good.


Also failed at Everton and Napoli. Klopp has never failed at any club and been a massive success everywhere. Klopp would kill it at a club like Napoli.


If tomorrow both are available, Klopp would be the first choice for any club. Facts.


Carlo has no signature style or influence on the game. Not even in a defensive sense. Klopp has a definite style of play which is ridiculously entertaining and influential on modern Football.


Remember: Finishing 4th with Mallorca is a bigger achievement than winning the league with Barcelona.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Not only.

You doubt he would have won massive titles with Barca or Madrid?
Had he coached one of the two the last 10 years he was at Pool, he would have totally annihilated the league, and collected few CLs on top of that

Something anyone with a brain about football can understand
Probably would have. I can't see Klopp failing at any club. He's too good in all aspects of management to fail.


I'm pretty sure he would do amazing at Everton and Napoli too........where Carlo failed miserably.


Carlo is an excellent man manager for elite players and keeps it simple. But he's not a Football genius. Not even in the defensive sense.


Klopp likes challenges and took on the hardest jobs ever. He's not the kind of guy who gives a flying fuck about his personal legacy.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
I think Carlo suits Real Madrid a lot. It's the perfect marriage.


He's the best at managing big egos, keeping it simple and getting the best out of the world class players. Also very calm, mature, has authority and great leadership skills. Commands respect naturally. Allows the players to express themselves and never micromanages. Star players appreciate that kind of tactical freedom.


Madrid are a club that are fine with playing shit on a stick football as long as the results are good. Carlo is very calm and smart in the big CL games. Never said it's easy to do what Carlo does.
 

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