Pep Guardiola

BerkeleyBernie

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Anyone think that the bayern job is a poison chalice? If he wins the Bundesliga it's not going to be seen as a major achievement... On top of that bayern have been to 2 of the last 3 CL finals. Basically only winning the CL will prove his worth at the club, his tenure will be largely seen as a failure should he fail to secure the trophy, similar to Mou's tenure at Madrid ( if the trophy continues to elude him at Madrid. )

No. I think it's more than just the 1st team. I think Pep's also being brought in to help with their youth training. I don't think Pep's going to try to make a Bundesliga Barça, but I think he will bring some elements of the technical quality and positional philosophy of Barça to bear on the Bayern game. A little more discipline, patience, and accuracy. You're not going to see him eliminate crossing and corners, etc. He's going to work with what he's got and make it better.
 

Yaya

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Barcelona will never ever have a coach like him again.

He brought his Barca side to the CL SF every single time in his 4 years and won it 2 times. He was extremely unlucky last season with all those chances missed.

First season without Pep? Going out in 1/8,lol.

The living legend he is.
 

Stric

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Some people were very quick to dismiss Pep's genius this season. With all the big games coming up soon, if we continue like this, I'm sure they'll be reminded why Pep is considered to be one of the best coaches in the world.
 

Theconomist

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Some people were very quick to dismiss Pep's genius this season. With all the big games coming up soon, if we continue like this, I'm sure they'll be reminded why Pep is considered to be one of the best coaches in the world.

Looking back, people will realise that it's Messi's Barca and not Pep's.
 
Barcelona will never ever have a coach like him again.

He brought his Barca side to the CL SF every single time in his 4 years and won it 2 times. He was extremely unlucky last season with all those chances missed.

First season without Pep? Going out in 1/8,lol.

The living legend he is.

Barca can pull off a comeback, though it will be tough. And IMO, the reason we lost the first leg is partly due to the fact that Tito had to leave and we had to use Roura.
 

Maria

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Anyone think that the bayern job is a poison chalice? If he wins the Bundesliga it's not going to be seen as a major achievement... On top of that bayern have been to 2 of the last 3 CL finals.

I think that it will be tougher than most people think(especially because it looks like Bayern will win at least a major title this year), but that doesn't mean that if he only wins the Bundesliga in his first year then he would have failed(and I think that even the Special One would tell us that winning a league in consecutive years is not as easy as it seems, even when you have a 500 M euros squad at your disposal and the best player in the world). Reaching the top is hard, but staying there is twice as difficult(and that's why the 2010-2011 season will always be special for me).
Basically only winning the CL will prove his worth at the club, his tenure will be largely seen as a failure should he fail to secure the trophy, similar to Mou's tenure at Madrid ( if the trophy continues to elude him at Madrid. )
First of all just because Mou didn't win the CL with RM until now, it doesn't meen that he failed. He was beatten by the the best team that I have ever seen in the first season and lost at penalties in his 2nd(and with a team that didn't reached the QFs for 6 consecutive years before him). Mou certainly didn't had the same succes at RM as Pep had with us, but he also didn't failed as much as Mancini did at City. And the madridistas should be thankfull to him only because he leaves behind players like Ozil, Khedira, Varane or a Cristiano that learned how to be a team player. And second of all, the CL is a competition where every single detail(like the ref giving you a hand or your best player missing a penalty or a volcano making you travel by bus from Barcelona to Milano) matters. What we should always demand from coaches like Mou is to be competitive in the league&the CL until April(and win one of them if possible) and until this season I think that he did just that.
 
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mikecraig

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I think that it will be tougher than most people think(especially because it looks like Bayern will win at least a major title this year
Mou certainly didn't had the same succes at RM as Pep had with us, but he also didn't failed as much as Mancini did at City. And the madridistas should be thankfull to him only because he leaves behind players like Ozil, Khedira, Varane or a Cristiano that learned how to be a team player.

Who exactly did Pep leave behind?
Alexis?
Macsh?

Pep lest us a weaker team than he met us look at our squad sheet when he came to this club and what he left behind after spending hundreds of millions net

And if Pep is a genius Del Bosque must be a tripple genius because he won Euros and world cup without Messi(best player in the world)
 

Stric

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Since when do you judge a manager's success by the squad he left behind?? Besides, wouldn't it be logical to assume that it's an even greater success to win more trophies with a "weaker" squad?
 
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mikecraig

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Since when do you judge a manager's success by the squad he left behind?? Besides, wouldn't it be logical to assume that it's an even greater success to win more trophies with a "weaker" squad?

Not when the weakness is self inflicted
 

Maria

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Wish we were better with transfers. With a few good signings, this team could be perfect.

True..with a few good signings maybe we wouldn't have been embarassed by this Milan side.
chingrisky

Caceres..Cesc..Villa..Keita..Adriano..Dani Alves..Pique..and don't forget Ibra..or even worse Pedro and Busquets.
Pep lest us a weaker team than he met us look at our squad sheet when he came to this club and what he left behind after spending hundreds of millions net
I'm wondering if you believed this when our players had to do the pasillo..
 
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