Philippe Coutinho

Zidane82

Well-known member
Had always said that the 'lack of quality' argument is stupid, and the 2 things blocking him at Barca were:
1) Confidence problems
2) The presence of Messi centrally, occupying his space and doing the things he would have done. Same goes for Griezman occupying his space.

Quite rewarding to see that these theses about him are getting vindicated

Exactly - all the guys calling him a donkey were well off the mark
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
What two games can do :lol:

I am happy for him (and us) though. He's still competing for 'just' being our 3rd worst signing ever.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Villa are not going to pay 40m for a player of his age with a year to go and when know how important it is for Barca to get off the books.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Villa are not going to pay 40m for a player of his age with a year to go and when know how important it is for Barca to get off the books.

I would be happy enough if he only spent 3 years of his 5.5 years contract here ;) Everything else is greedy.

That should be enough to have him down as our 2nd worst signing ever. I am excited.
 
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fergus90

Senior Member
I'd be interested to know the number of shirts been sold since he arrived. Pretty much see a Coutinho 23 top every 10 minutes now :lol:

I think we will buy him. People genuinely think we've signed one of the best players in the world, those who haven't watched La Liga since he went there anyway.
 
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stb_1

Senior Member
La Liga is littered with players scoring goals that were abysmal in EPL works both ways but no doubt EPL is far stronger.

A mid table game in EPL has Brazilian, Spanish, English internationals.

Tried to watch Granada v Osasuna I think it was for Collado a couple weeks back it was so slow, boring and devoid of quality had to switch it off.

Exactly! lmao.

Even relegation teams like Burnley and Watford have top internations like Cornet and Sarr.
 

Catta

Senior Member
Still a shit player, 2 good games for a mid table team won't change the fact that he is footballs biggest transfer flop ever. Last year he was overshadowed by an 18 year old at Barca, and this year by a 17 year old. So the excuse that he wasn't used right is not true. If two kids played better than him, its all on him being shit, and being a mental midget.

Liverpool became a winning team as soon as this loser left them. With Coutinho they were an average team, with their best finish being 4th, and once second because of Suarez playing on BdOr level. When Coutinho left they got 196 points in next two seasons.

If he can fool some team by getting him, so he never returns to Barca, it will be a huge win. Even if Barca don't get a transfer fee, will be great deal.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Still a shit player, 2 good games for a mid table team won't change the fact that he is footballs biggest transfer flop ever. Last year he was overshadowed by an 18 year old at Barca, and this year by a 17 year old. So the excuse that he wasn't used right is not true. If two kids played better than him, its all on him being shit, and being a mental midget.

Liverpool became a winning team as soon as this loser left them. With Coutinho they were an average team, with their best finish being 4th, and once second because of Suarez playing on BdOr level. When Coutinho left they got 196 points in next two seasons.

If he can fool some team by getting him, so he never returns to Barca, it will be a huge win. Even if Barca don't get a transfer fee, will be great deal.

Pedri and Gavi are different players with different expectations and a hell of a lot changed at Liverpool not just Coutinho leaving.

Liverpool were desperate for him to stay for a reason he was their best player in year before he left.
 

Catta

Senior Member
Pedri and Gavi are different players with different expectations and a hell of a lot changed at Liverpool not just Coutinho leaving.

Liverpool were desperate for him to stay for a reason he was their best player in year before he left.

They wanted him to stay, but they wouldn't have had the success they had, if he stayed. When he left, Mane, Salah and Firmino started playing with more freedom and on another level. Many things changed, yes, like getting VVD and Alisson, but getting rid of Cou was as important as getting them.

Ozil played great for Real, and they also started winning when he left. They are the same type of player, look great most of time, but if you want to play on the next level you need to get rid of those types of players.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
They wanted him to stay, but they wouldn't have had the success they had, if he stayed. When he left, Mane, Salah and Firmino started playing with more freedom and on another level. Many things changed, yes, like getting VVD and Alisson, but getting rid of Cou was as important as getting them.

Ozil played great for Real, and they also started winning when he left. They are the same type of player, look great most of time, but if you want to play on the next level you need to get rid of those types of players.

Coutinho was top class for Liverpool and seen as integral to their style of play at that time. Was their best player in year before he left and they made him their highest ever paid player.

Team improved more than anything due to Alison, VVD and TAA/Robertson establishing themselves.

Top class player for Liverpool and maybe they win more with some creativity in midfield who knows.

Will take Klopps opinion on Coutinho and why he begged him to stay and made him highest paid player.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Coutinho was top class for Liverpool and seen as integral to their style of play at that time. Was their best player in year before he left and they made him their highest ever paid player.

Team improved more than anything due to Alison, VVD and TAA/Robertson establishing themselves.

Top class player for Liverpool and maybe they win more with some creativity in midfield who knows.

Will take Klopps opinion on Coutinho and why he begged him to stay and made him highest paid player.

Yes, that kind of revisionism about Coutinho at Liverpool, trying to belittle them and Klopp indirectly, had become sickening.

Hopefully, now with his redemption at EPL, anyone expressing such views in the past will have a chance to change his mind
 

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