Premier League 23/24

Who will win PL this season?


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JamDav1982

Senior Member
Maybe in 5-6 years these youth talents are gonna become top class players. Until then...

No the squad now is very good with those players.

Who is it that Barca fans over rate thats shouldnt be starters?

You claimed this before and then couldnt answer.
 

serghei

Senior Member
No the squad now is very good with those players.

It's good. And performances of the team are that or even better. Management of the team atm is excellent.

Overall the team achieved more than many richer teams, to the high credit of the players, the manager, the SD, the president, the fans, and so on.

You just need to be ealistic and see that, despite the progress made, much more work, more time, and more funds are needed to become an elite team.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
This is simply untrue. Elite teams don't use many youngsters in big games.
Barca has always done. You accuse others of being plastics yet you have no idea of the culture of the club yourself.
Barca's golden generations were more often than not products of the youth system or younger players.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
This is simply untrue. Elite teams don't use many youngsters in big games.

False.. they will if good enough.

Who are the 'elite' teams Barca are worse than as a squad?

Barca wont suddelny get better by going out and buying as 25 year old LB worse than Balde.

Top teams would take Balde and play him now. Same with Pedri.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Barca has always done. You accuse others of being plastics yet you have no idea of the culture of the club yourself.
Barca's golden generations were more often than not products of the youth system or younger players.

Not really. 2006 Barca had superstars left and right. 2009 Barca also. 2015 Barca is a collection of stars. So on...

Only 2011 team is an anomally. But that is once in a lifetime team. And even that team had 3-4 elite players in some key positions like Alves, Villa, Abidal, Mascherano.

Most big Barca teams have been, in history, a mix of Barca raised talents and acquired superstars.

In fact, we often pride ourselves with the collection of insane stars and football legends that wore the blaugrana shirt.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
It is irrelevant.

If the players are good enough they are old enough.

Who are the Barca players over rated as starters as you claim?
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Not really. 2006 Barca had superstars left and right. 2009 Barca also. 2015 Barca is a collection of stars. So on...

Only 2011 team is an anomally. But that is once in a lifetime team. And even that team had 3-4 elite players in some key positions like Alves, Villa, Abidal, Mascherano.

Most big Barca teams have been, in history, a mix of Barca raised talents and acquired superstars.
Thats what we are doing now... we have a lot of experience in the squad now as well.
Its not all young players and the young players that do play dont play out of necessity they play because they're very good players.

Likes of United or Spurs or Milan who were claimed to have better squads would jump at the chance to start likes of Pedri or Balde.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
:lol: Over here?

Almost all of them. The only top class or elite player in the team is Frenkie De Jong.

Totally different argument.

What of the Barca young players are over rated?

What teams doesnt Pedri get in? Or Balde?

Thats two of the three starters.

Making no sense as usual.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
:lol: Over here?

Almost all of them. The only top class or elite player in the team is Frenkie De Jong.
Your player rating axis is so so weird. You rate absolute shite like Havertz and Antony as top players but hate on much better players when they play for your own club.
Pedri, Araujo, Balde not top players... Havertz and Antony are. Jesus wept.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Out of curiosity, I'd love to see Barca players in the Ballon d'Or recent list. Did they even make top 20?
 

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