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Bertus

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Thanks for your updates Berto :) Always a pleasure. P$G i can't stand just due to ownership but man they are going to be a force. Any truth to the Ronaldinho to PSG in January rumors?
No more than how they are now.

Look at Chelsea and how much they spent. Sure they won the CL once, but not during their best year and they were more than Lucky.

And many players will still refuse to join, because the french league sucks. And it will suck even more since a new tax will be created soon.

As for Ronaldinho, there is no truth to it as far as i know.
 

AfricanBavarian

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Thanks to recent events by PSG and their potential €200m/yr "sponsorship" i think its time to shine some light on FFP. Anyone who is expecting clubs like Man C, PSG, Chelsea, to falter has to stop lying to themselves. In my opinion the damage has been done when it comes to those clubs. Those clubs have established themselves as European contenders and will not just go away easily. Especially Chelsea who have won a UCL, and being the first London based team to do so sets them up pretty well. Man C and PSG are also in commercially viable areas(Paris and Manchester). All FFP will do will stop future clubs from gaining success in the same way and keep the status quo in check. Their really isnt anything fair about FFP to be honest but it will help stable the current market. If FFP was initiated 10-15 years ago maybe something more helpful could have been done. I dont expect UEFA to do anything about PSG and Man City's shady deals. They will probably give a long and hard analysis of the deal lasting 10 seconds before saying anything. Im probably just rambling but i felt like it had to be said.
 

Bertus

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Thanks to recent events by PSG and their potential €200m/yr "sponsorship" i think its time to shine some light on FFP. Anyone who is expecting clubs like Man C, PSG, Chelsea, to falter has to stop lying to themselves. In my opinion the damage has been done when it comes to those clubs. Those clubs have established themselves as European contenders and will not just go away easily. Especially Chelsea who have won a UCL, and being the first London based team to do so sets them up pretty well. Man C and PSG are also in commercially viable areas(Paris and Manchester). All FFP will do will stop future clubs from gaining success in the same way and keep the status quo in check. Their really isnt anything fair about FFP to be honest but it will help stable the current market. If FFP was initiated 10-15 years ago maybe something more helpful could have been done. I dont expect UEFA to do anything about PSG and Man City's shady deals. They will probably give a long and hard analysis of the deal lasting 10 seconds before saying anything. Im probably just rambling but i felt like it had to be said.

I must be the only one to believe that PSG will get bashed by the FFP.

I don't think this contract with QTA will be accepted. 200M is way too much. Plain and simple.

I am a PSG fan but I won't defend it. If the FFP actually accepts this deal, then it will mean FFP is just for talk.
 

BigBarcaBoy

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I must be the only one to believe that PSG will get bashed by the FFP.

I don't think this contract with QTA will be accepted. 200M is way too much. Plain and simple.

I am a PSG fan but I won't defend it. If the FFP actually accepts this deal, then it will mean FFP is just for talk.

when it boils down to it the FFP will find a way to let this pass.
 

AfricanBavarian

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I must be the only one to believe that PSG will get bashed by the FFP.

I don't think this contract with QTA will be accepted. 200M is way too much. Plain and simple.

I am a PSG fan but I won't defend it. If the FFP actually accepts this deal, then it will mean FFP is just for talk.

Wasnt their a previous deal for €700m/yr or is this the same one just revised?
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Bertus,

What's happening with France' proposed 75 % tax rate? I read that the government is not willing to budge, so when/if it is implemented, how do you think it will effect clubs like PSG, Monaco, Other Ligue 1 teams and France Football in general?
 

Bertus

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Bertus,

What's happening with France' proposed 75 % tax rate? I read that the government is not willing to budge, so when/if it is implemented, how do you think it will effect clubs like PSG, Monaco, Other Ligue 1 teams and France Football in general?
Monaco is not concerned by this tax or any other french taxes because even if they play in the french league, they are a team from another country.

That's why french clubs are asking them to transfer their headquarter in France, but obviously, they refuse.

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PSG doesn't care on the Financial side of things because Qataries are so full of money that they don't care even if them alone pays more than half the amount of the tax.

PSG will pay 24M per year, Marseille 6M, Lyon 5M. They are the main contributors among the 44M euros that the state will gain from taxing the French League 1 and 2.

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Now the problem is that beside PSG, EVERY clubs will greatly suffer from this tax. Including Marseille and Lyon. They will have to sell players during the winter mercato. It will lower the level of the league again.

Same for smaller clubs.

PSG are terrified by the idea of seeing the level of league going down the shitter. They are not happy at all.

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The main problem is that this tax is retroactive and too high. Meaning the tax will concern clubs' budgets from this year.

Imagine that you run a company. You and your CA vote a budget for the year. Now imagine that near the end of the same year, a new tax appears asking you to pay money you didn't include in your budget you voted at the beginning of the fiscal year.

Obviously you will be in the red if you don't have any reserve in money.

So what will you do ? You will start to fire people and reduce your activity.

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Now the BIG problem is that François Hollande knows nothing about football and that he uses this stupid tax as a token to please all the socialists and communists that are part of the shitty country that France currently is.

(i say stupid because this tax is useless, it goes against the fundamental principle of any tax: aka, it concerns only a few people and the state earns almost no money from it. 44M is really nothing compared to the billions France needs to pay its debts and to pay for the enormous public expenses socialists refuse to cut)

French Socialists and Communists (green party here are rebranded communists too) are a plague, all they do is raising the taxes, and create new ones. While helping illegal immigrants first and not giving a fu** about poor french that should be helped first and foremost. They continue to spend public money, and refuse to cut the public expenses.

They think France can help all the poor people from this world while rejecting the idea that you can't slice a cake endlessly (the cake being public money)

So here we are, the socialists started a campaign against rich people.

Since football clubs (which are not rich at all beside PSG. All the others are full of debts) and footballers are considered all rich, and since they don't know anything about the economy in football, they created this tax as a token and say "LOOK, WE CREATE NEW TAXES BECAUSE RICH PEOPLE HAVE TO GIVE THEIR MONEY"

It's ridiculous. I am part of one of the few countries where earning money is seen as a dangerous illness.

Be successful and immediatly you become the enemy of everyone. Even if you never did anything bad in your life, you earn lots of money, so you're an enemy.
 
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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Thanks for answering :)

Interesting times ahead and you're right in it hitting other clubs really hard and really weakning the league. Lets see how it goes. You're indeed right(last couple of sentences)

Lets see how their proposed protest by strike will do.
 

Bertus

New member
Thanks for answering :)

Interesting times ahead and you're right in it hitting other clubs really hard and really weakning the league. Lets see how it goes. You're indeed right(last couple of sentences)

Lets see how their proposed protest by strike will do.

It will do nothing. Hollande doesn't care about football. All he wants is to get higher in the Surveys.

Recently, a survey showed that he became the most hated president of the 5th French Republic (so the most hated since 1948 when De Gaulle started the 5th Republic)

So he hopes he will get praise from the left wing parties and people by taxing the rich since France is full of debts and is spending more than it earns.

As i said, they refuse to cut public expenses, instead they create more and more taxes.

But the result of that is bad since :

- Rich people (actually, a lot of normal people too) and companies are fleeing more and more to UK, Germany etc.
- People can't pay more taxes if they don't have money

So compared to last year, last semester the state earned less money from taxes than last year despite raising taxes and creating new ones.

See the stupidities ?

That's what you get by having the state runs by idealists that refuse a fundamental thing "you can spend the money you don't have".

A time will come when France economy will crash, and you know what ? French deserve it.

And i mean french people, because lots of them don't understand whar i described above and are treating anyone that have more money than them like trash.

If you earn more money than your neighbour, he will not praise you, he will hate you. That's how things run here.

If you have a beautiful wife ? Same, more hate.
 
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Bertus

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I said "idealists" but most of the politicians that are socialists and communists are actually quite rich. Starting with Hollande.

They are hypocritical.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Most hated already?! Wow... :lol:

Seriously, thats quite an achievment to suck that hard. Their policies are/must be quite flawed as you said, they are usually all hypocrites. Almost all politicans are hypocrites. You almost have to be one to do well in politics.
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

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Now the BIG problem is that François Hollande knows nothing about football and that he uses this stupid tax as a token to please all the socialists and communists that are part of the shitty country that France currently is.

(i say stupid because this tax is useless, it goes against the fundamental principle of any tax: aka, it concerns only a few people and the state earns almost no money from it. 44M is really nothing compared to the billions France needs to pay its debts and to pay for the enormous public expenses socialists refuse to cut)

French Socialists and Communists (green party here are rebranded communists too) are a plague, all they do is raising the taxes, and create new ones. While helping illegal immigrants first and not giving a fu** about poor french that should be helped first and foremost. They continue to spend public money, and refuse to cut the public expenses.

They think France can help all the poor people from this world while rejecting the idea that you can't slice a cake endlessly (the cake being public money)

So here we are, the socialists started a campaign against rich people.

Since football clubs (which are not rich at all beside PSG. All the others are full of debts) and footballers are considered all rich, and since they don't know anything about the economy in football, they created this tax as a token and say "LOOK, WE CREATE NEW TAXES BECAUSE RICH PEOPLE HAVE TO GIVE THEIR MONEY"

It's ridiculous. I am part of one of the few countries where earning money is seen as a dangerous illness.

Be successful and immediatly you become the enemy of everyone. Even if you never did anything bad in your life, you earn lots of money, so you're an enemy.

You sir are a good man ;)
 

pEllee

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Brilliant football from PSG right now. :worthy:


EDIT: Verratti is just...wow. He should be starting for Italy.


3-0 now.
 
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