Quique Setien

[jairzinho]

While Barca want to get rid of their coach Quique Setien, the technical secretary of Blaugrana, Eric Abidal, pushes for the candidacy of Laurent Blanc [l'equipe]

Intriguing prospect, but he won?t be able to change much with amigos still here. Not even Pep would want to work with a broken old team with a core of mostly egotistical has beens.

 

[DonAK]

I think Setien continues for another season. I'm not sure anyone will want to come in being a one year solution.

If we want a one year solution I'd rather it be someone that can integrate the younger players in the squad and prepare the team for a rebuild than a man who will play the seniors to try to squeeze one Copa trophy or something off them.

The rebuild will start with Xavi and a new board.

 

[clemente]

Just need to buyout that Atalanta manager, half of their team, their board, these people would be killing it here with our revenue.

 

[Andresito]

I think Setien continues for another season. I'm not sure anyone will want to come in being a one year solution.

If we want a one year solution I'd rather it be someone that can integrate the younger players in the squad and prepare the team for a rebuild than a man who will play the seniors to try to squeeze one Copa trophy or something off them.

The rebuild will start with Xavi and a new board.

The only short term solution/alternative is Pimienta with hopes that he does what Hansi Flick has managed to do at Bayern. But I think Setien's safe for now.

 

[Birdy]

The only short term solution/alternative is Pimienta with hopes that he does what Hansi Flick has managed to do at Bayern. But I think Setien's safe for now.

Bayern does not have Amigos who do want to work.
Even star players like Lewandonski, Ribery, Robben complained about Ancelotti that he was not making them train enough.
Different mentality

 

[vegitot]

Even the weak 82 points of this season would have been enough to win the league in 17/18 and 18/19, just to add some perspective.

The team was also already going downhill real fast the first half of the season, that's why Valverde finally got sacked after surviving two huge CL humiliations. Setien took over mid season and couldn't influence the squad or the preparation in any significant way so if he can perform equally to the league master that should already proof it really doesn't matter what bum is standing (or sleeping) at the sideline, with these average coaches it just comes down to the team or in our case more so Messi.

Setien is a nobody and average at best but this retrospective praise for Valverde is really irritating. It was 2 and a half seasons of mediocre and boring ass football winning domestic titles against a terribly preforming Real Madrid by pressing the last drop of energy out of the veterans leaving us with an old, entitled and physically dead squad.

Setien would lose to RM 2017, 2018, 2019 easily. RM won 2017 and 2018 UCL, far superior to this current side. Setien also would lose to Socieadad away from home easily with his tactic.

Can not believe some people here still think under Setien Barca plays beautiful football and get better. Then why Messi himself said the whole team play badly??? Is Messi blind?

Fact is Setien loses Liga to RM, no need to deny that. Fact is he has terrible subs and can not read the game properly. 2 points lead before the break yet lose the league.

No excuse here.

 

[MTL_Barca]

Setien would lose to RM 2017, 2018, 2019 easily. RM won 2017 and 2018 UCL, far superior to this current side. Setien also would lose to Socieadad away from home easily with his tactic.

Can not believe some people here still think under Setien Barca plays beautiful football and get better. Then why Messi himself said the whole team play badly??? Is Messi blind?

Fact is Setien loses Liga to RM, no need to deny that. Fact is he has terrible subs and can not read the game properly. 2 points lead before the break yet lose the league.

No excuse here.

Yes Setien losing the league, and Valverde was on his way to lose it as well that's why he got sacked. I've yet to see someone here dickriding Setien so idk where you even try to go with this but keep going

Call Setien a useless bum or what else, who cares but Valverde was painfully mediocre as well and is partly responsible for this absolute mess of a team we have today. He let the amigos walk all over him, didn't give a fuck when it came to physical preparation and either had no motivation to change the squad or silently accepted that the board doenst even ask him - either way it's a weak mentality. Almost as weak as the team in CL away games They could fire Setien tomorrow for all i care, he won't succeed here anyway but i'm still glad they finally sacked Valverde even though it was at least half a season too late.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Yes Setien losing the league, and Valverde was on his way to lose it as well that's why he got sacked. I've yet to see someone here dickriding Setien so idk where you even try to go with this but keep going

Call Setien a useless bum or what else, who cares but Valverde was painfully mediocre as well and is partly responsible for this absolute mess of a team we have today. He let the amigos walk all over him, didn't give a fuck when it came to physical preparation and either had no motivation to change the squad or silently accepted that the board doenst even ask him - either way it's a weak mentality. Almost as weak as the team in CL away games They could fire Setien tomorrow for all i care, he won't succeed here anyway but i'm still glad they finally sacked Valverde even though it was at least half a season too late.

Spot on!

 

[Vilarrubi]

Can not believe some people here still think under Setien Barca plays beautiful football and get better. Then why Messi himself said the whole team play badly??? Is Messi blind?

Who said that on here?

Maybe a few comments about the Villarreal game being decent and a couple of others but that’s about it. Seen nothing like “beautiful” on here.

 

[serghei]

It's irrelevant if it's Setien or somebody else. The veterans run the team and the manager has to listen to Messi, Suarez, Pique & the other big shots in the locker-room.

Xavi needs to stay away until the board gives him absolute powers to make every technical decision in the team. If he comes too soon and is not cut-throat like Pep early on, they will try to 'manage' him as well.

It's clear the current board doesn't want to upset the vets. In these conditions, no top manager would touch us. The ones that would are Valverde, Setien types. Guys from Bilbao, Betis, that never coached a tier 1 club (or even tier 2 for that matter) in their life, and for which Barca is too good to pass, in any conditions.

Not necessarily bad managers, but managers willing to accept compromise to keep their "prestigious" job. Even if they have much less power than a real top manager has at other clubs.

That is why we are where we are. Weak board, strong selfish veterans (who happen to great legends), and second rate managers. It's a cycle that is not breaking without a new board willing to take risks and attempt to rebuild this side.

 

[Tackle]

It's clear the current board doesn't want to upset the vets. In these conditions, no top manager would touch us. The ones that would are Valverde, Setien types. Guys from Bilbao, Betis, that never coached a tier 1 club (or even tier 2 for that matter) in their life, and for which Barca is too good to pass, in any conditions.

It is not like we were signing big name managers even before it was evident this cycle was finished. This spans the duration of multiple boards and projects.

Look at the list of our previous managers:

-Setien
-Valverde
-Lucho
-Tata
-Tito
-Pep
-Rijkaard

Which one of those were big fish in the managerial world when we signed them? And out of that lot only Pep went on to be a manager that had success at other top level clubs. I don't think we're suddenly going to start going after the big names under a new board. We will keep cycling through "Barca DNA" coaches until we find one that fits.

 

[Vilarrubi]

It is not like we were signing big name managers even before it was evident this cycle was finished. This spans the duration of multiple boards and projects.

Look at the list of our previous managers:

-Setien
-Valverde
-Lucho
-Tata
-Tito
-Pep
-Rijkaard

Which one of those were big fish in the managerial world when we signed them? And out of that lot only Pep went on to be a manager that had success at other top level clubs. I don't think we're suddenly going to start going after the big names under a new board. We will keep cycling through "Barca DNA" coaches until we find one that fits.

That’s why we should get Xavi. Likelihood of us getting a “big name” is slim. Otherwise it’ll be another mid table La Liga manager or a Barca DNA coach like Blanc.

 

[Tackle]

That’s why we should get Xavi. Likelihood of us getting a “big name” is slim. Otherwise it’ll be another mid table La Liga manager or a Barca DNA coach like Blanc.

True. If we were to go after an unproven manager a former legend would be much more likely to succeed than some mid-table no-names. Pep, Lucho and Rijkaard all fit that bill and all three won the CL with us as managers. Pep turned out to be an all-time great coach on top of that so we got especially lucky with him.

Not sure Xavi has it in him though. Either way, he will most certainly get his chance here sometime in the next 5 years. I wish him well.

 

[serghei]

It is not like we were signing big name managers even before it was evident this cycle was finished. This spans the duration of multiple boards and projects.

Look at the list of our previous managers:

-Setien
-Valverde
-Lucho
-Tata
-Tito
-Pep
-Rijkaard

Which one of those were big fish in the managerial world when we signed them? And out of that lot only Pep went on to be a manager that had success at other top level clubs. I don't think we're suddenly going to start going after the big names under a new board. We will keep cycling through "Barca DNA" coaches until we find one that fits.

Pep was a genius and it was apparent before we got him. It wasn't just lucky appointment. We chose him over a serial winner at the time in Mourinho. Lucho is a former Barca legend and was always a fighter and a professional on the pitch. And he had some experience. They had some serious things going for them.

Others were bad appointments, with few accomplishments at this level, and with very few connections with Barca in general. And it showed in many ways. We've been able to win titles despite these lesser managers because we had a set of highly skilled players, generational players like Messi, Iniesta, Suarez, Alves and others. World class individuals above the level of other sides.

But now this is coming to an end, and more than ever we need that A quality on the managerial seat. To be able to rebuild this team. You won't ever do it with guys like Valverde or Setien.

 

[KingLeo10]

Also, a team of mostly hard-working players and a few talented ones UNDER a great manager is more fun to watch than a team UNDER an insipid manager with superstars (usually washed up).

I'd much prefer the Liverpool of 17/18 or the current Bayern setup than our one. Or even RM's.