Quique Setien

[vinni]

I doubt too many wanted Valverde here for the third season, but when they decided to stick with him, we should have kept him for the whole season.
Changing the coach mid season while we where top of the league is a huge gamble and it went to shit in the end.
It was a ridiculous move by the board and it wasn't fair to the players, Setien, Valverde and the fans.

I always took some pride in that we didn't panic and toss the coach whenever results where bad, but we lost that too now.

 

[jairzinho]

I doubt too many wanted Valverde here for the third season, but when they decided to stick with him, we should have kept him for the whole season.
Changing the coach mid season while we where top of the league is a huge gamble and it went to shit in the end.
It was a ridiculous move by the board and it wasn't fair to the players, Setien, Valverde and the fans.

I always took some pride in that we didn't panic and toss the coach whenever results where bad, but we lost that too now.

It was a necessary gamble. Somewhere in January, the board realized that another CL humiliation was looming. We weren't looking that sharp in la liga either. They tried to shake things up mainly to avoid another European disaster. Ultimately, QS couldn't get the amigos on board with his plans and things went to shit.

EV should have been axed last summer and we should have forced out the likes of Suarez and Rakitic. As unrealistic as it may have been, it was the correct thing to do. The squad needed a shake up.

 

[Respekt_III]

I doubt too many wanted Valverde here for the third season, but when they decided to stick with him, we should have kept him for the whole season.
Changing the coach mid season while we where top of the league is a huge gamble and it went to shit in the end.
It was a ridiculous move by the board and it wasn't fair to the players, Setien, Valverde and the fans.

I always took some pride in that we didn't panic and toss the coach whenever results where bad, but we lost that too now.

Are you for real? Wasn't fair to the fans and players?
The players liked "I don't believe in physical preparation" valverde because they could do what ever the fuck they wanted with no reprucussions. If anything it was unfair to the fans that they acted too late in sacking him.
Secondly we were playing like absolute shit and had the worst start to a campaign ever everything was just shit every aspect of the club. Us being on top was genuinely down to our rivals being miraculously worse than us.
There is no justifiable way that you could advocate to keep that fraud in a job just like now there's no way any of us should be backing setein because he clearly isn't capable.
This revolutionist bullshit about potentially winning the league is just that.

 

[malvolio]

shouldn't this bum be out of a job already? he came from nothing and did nothing here, no point wasting more time with him.

 

[Marshall D Teach]

League Master Valverde somehow managed to get less points than this bum

 

[PhilS]

The question is whether to let him go now, or wait until after the Napoli game. I have no good answer. Firing him now would be a desparate move. You could hardly expect a new manager to be able to help for the August 8 game. On the other hand, you could hardly expect Septien to be the best guy to run the team for this game.

 

[vinni]

Are you for real? Wasn't fair to the fans and players?
The players liked "I don't believe in physical preparation" valverde because they could do what ever the fuck they wanted with no reprucussions. If anything it was unfair to the fans that they acted too late in sacking him.
Secondly we were playing like absolute shit and had the worst start to a campaign ever everything was just shit every aspect of the club. Us being on top was genuinely down to our rivals being miraculously worse than us.
There is no justifiable way that you could advocate to keep that fraud in a job just like now there's no way any of us should be backing setein because he clearly isn't capable.
This revolutionist bullshit about potentially winning the league is just that.

Yeah for real. It was a move that should be done last summer or this summer. Changing coach in the middle of the season are for clubs that are desperate and about to get relegated, not
for a club at first place and had everything to play for. Anyhow it's done so we need to look ahead.

 

[malvolio]

The question is whether to let him go now, or wait until after the Napoli game. I have no good answer. Firing him now would be a desparate move. You could hardly expect a new manager to be able to help for the August 8 game. On the other hand, you could hardly expect Septien to be the best guy to run the team for this game.

same bullshit as with valverde i guess. feels odd to fire him now, but otherwise we already know he is not the guy you want on the bench against napoli/bayern.

 

[Birdy]

Let's see what the options are for next season, and forget for a moment the CL (where the objective by the way will be to get eliminated in a decent manner and avoid a Valverde-type humiliation):

- Top coaches are all employed bar Pochetino. Pochetino is not coming as it became evident in January.
- Xavi will not come, and rightfully so. He is waiting for Victor Font to lead the club.
- Koeman is bound at the Netherlands NT, and won't come before Euro 2021.

- Other options are either 'house names' below par coaches like Jordi Cruyff and Kluivert, who would be a coaching joke, and on the top of that let the Amigos run riot and make them into another EV (not training etc),
or 'house names' promising coaches like Pimienta, who will end up like Setien, because the players will refuse to implement their ideas.
or decent managers that do not fit the Barca profile (Allegri) and won't be offered the job.

I honestly don't see any positive solution. It's better to keep Setien than burn one or two more people and ridicule the club more until the '21 elections.

 

[Porque]

Ideally we keep Setien and the players follow his orders to try and increase their fitness in the off-season and fulfill his orders in game.

But if he is going to cater to how hard the group want to train and run, and go through the motions, then it is better to get a stronger motivator for next season.

 

[BBZ8800]

League Master Valverde somehow managed to get less points than this bum

You mean:
= Messi in 19 matches won more points than Messi in 14 matches

What a shock.

 

[serghei]

You mean:
= Messi in 19 matches won more points than Messi in 14 matches

What a shock.

In the words of our spiritual leader, Wolfe, do you have any proof or some sort of evidence that Messi is the reason Setien made more points than EV?

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

You mean:
= Messi in 19 matches won more points than Messi in 14 matches

What a shock.

Didn't you always complain that Messi and co are small church kids so they suck in CL? Then you use it against Pep because he had Messi. Not sure if I follow your logic all the time. I feel like you always change your agenda how it fits for you.

Valverde was carried by Messi for two years, you could say that too, which is probably true too.

Setien or Valverde are no world class coaches. They are similar level, Valverde more proven but I don't think the difference is that big.

Now you will make a billion word list why Valverde is better. Yes I know he has more impressive achievements but again he didn't try to do anything new with this Barca team and he let them age badly. Some of the fault goes to him how he managed this squad.

Setien has way bigger balls than Valverde and that counts for me. We need coach with balls and authority to say no to our spoiled players. This is not everlasting holiday in Barcelona. (It would always end up in conflict but that's fine. These players are spoiled as ****.)

We need someone who can shake the boat, not yes man like Valverde. I am happy we fired Valverde and signed Setien. Although I don't think this is long-term plan but good enough for now.

And fuck the style of football Valverde played. Anti fucking football. It was worse football than watching Atletico park the bus for ninenty minutes. Thats how boring it was. Thank God he is gone. He should have been fired Long time ago!

 

[malvolio]

Ideally we keep Setien and the players follow his orders to try and increase their fitness in the off-season and fulfill his orders in game.

But if he is going to cater to how hard the group want to train and run, and go through the motions, then it is better to get a stronger motivator for next season.

only winning the CL would save setien from sacking. otherwise don't see why we should keep him. he didn't produce anything of note in his whole career, do you think he'll start doing it next season?

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

only winning the CL would save setien from sacking. otherwise don't see why we should keep him. he didn't produce anything of note in his whole career, do you think he'll start doing it next season?

If he makes semis he should be saved. If he somehow goes past Bayern, he has made a miracle.

But yes if he loses against Napoli or Bayern he is probably sacked. Odds are against him.