Setien came with an idea of changing Barca - talking about playing youth more, more intense training sessions* and canceling the players mini holidays BUT he soon found out exactly who runs this club. the players were complaining about the training, club de amigos totally cucked him as they did Valverde. they are the biggest culprits and why managers like Klopp would never even consider managing here.
*something MaTS was saying we lacked under EV and Frenkie now
Valverde and Setien are midtable managers but no other club in the world would leave them as powerless as they were here. I don't care if a manager has won everything or won a mere Copa.. they should be respected and they should decide who plays and where. now, are you gonna tell me Valverde, Setien and the next fall guy are really stupid enough to think Suarez and Busi playing whilst Messi walks around with no fixed position is a good idea??
Totally agree with you.Setien came with an idea of changing Barca - talking about playing youth more, more intense training sessions* and canceling the players mini holidays BUT he soon found out exactly who runs this club. the players were complaining about the training, club de amigos totally cucked him as they did Valverde. they are the biggest culprits and why managers like Klopp would never even consider managing here.
*something MaTS was saying we lacked under EV and Frenkie now
Valverde and Setien are midtable managers but no other club in the world would leave them as powerless as they were here. I don't care if a manager has won everything or won a mere Copa.. they should be respected and they should decide who plays and where. now, are you gonna tell me Valverde, Setien and the next fall guy are really stupid enough to think Suarez and Busi playing whilst Messi walks around with no fixed position is a good idea??
How about change the player first, you can't expect grannies to have the same energy just like the young players. A total overhaul even without Messi if that's what you people like. But be prepared to stay irrelevant for years and accept it and wait
Setien came with an idea of changing Barca - talking about playing youth more, more intense training sessions* and canceling the players mini holidays BUT he soon found out exactly who runs this club. the players were complaining about the training, club de amigos totally cucked him as they did Valverde. they are the biggest culprits and why managers like Klopp would never even consider managing here.
*something MaTS was saying we lacked under EV and Frenkie now
Valverde and Setien are midtable managers but no other club in the world would leave them as powerless as they were here. I don't care if a manager has won everything or won a mere Copa.. they should be respected and they should decide who plays and where. now, are you gonna tell me Valverde, Setien and the next fall guy are really stupid enough to think Suarez and Busi playing whilst Messi walks around with no fixed position is a good idea??
Valverde failed = 100% Valverde's fault. Replace him by whatever then Barca would return to Pep's Barca, treble incoming.
Setien failed (much worse) = 50% player's fault + 50% board, no one even Pep or Kloop can fix this team.
WTF is this???
Valverde failed = 100% Valverde's fault. Replace him by whatever then Barca would return to Pep's Barca, treble incoming.
Setien failed (much worse) = 50% player's fault + 50% board, no one even Pep or Kloop can fix this team.
WTF is this???
That's all true.
I believe now even Valverde had some ideas. Both were cucked by the seniors and Bartomeu. Valverde did better mostly because the veterans were not as finished as they are now.
Now their legs are totally gone and there's no way back for them at this age, with so much mileage.
I think people realized now the players are past it and whoever built this team messed up big time.
Setien was in no win situation. He is the fall guy, but the real fall is made by the players and management.
I would blame Valverde a bit too. He didn't train players enough physically. (That's on players too, unwilling to workout).
Both are trash and in both situations the board has also a fault.
That's all true.
I believe now even Valverde had some ideas. Both were cucked by the seniors and Bartomeu. Valverde did better mostly because the veterans were not as finished as they are now.
Now their legs are totally gone and there's no way back for them at this age, with so much mileage.
EV played Raki, while QS played PuigValverde failed = 100% Valverde's fault. Replace him by whatever then Barca would return to Pep's Barca, treble incoming.
Setien failed (much worse) = 50% player's fault + 50% board, no one even Pep or Kloop can fix this team.
WTF is this???
Valverde failed = 100% Valverde's fault. Replace him by whatever then Barca would return to Pep's Barca, treble incoming.
Setien failed (much worse) = 50% player's fault + 50% board, no one even Pep or Kloop can fix this team.
WTF is this???