Quique Setien

Givenchy

Senior Member
Setien came with an idea of changing Barca - talking about playing youth more, more intense training sessions* and canceling the players mini holidays BUT he soon found out exactly who runs this club. the players were complaining about the training, club de amigos totally cucked him as they did Valverde. they are the biggest culprits and why managers like Klopp would never even consider managing here.

*something MaTS was saying we lacked under EV and Frenkie now

Valverde and Setien are midtable managers but no other club in the world would leave them as powerless as they were here. I don't care if a manager has won everything or won a mere Copa.. they should be respected and they should decide who plays and where. now, are you gonna tell me Valverde, Setien and the next fall guy are really stupid enough to think Suarez and Busi playing whilst Messi walks around with no fixed position is a good idea??
 
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vegitot

Senior Member
Setien came with an idea of changing Barca - talking about playing youth more, more intense training sessions* and canceling the players mini holidays BUT he soon found out exactly who runs this club. the players were complaining about the training, club de amigos totally cucked him as they did Valverde. they are the biggest culprits and why managers like Klopp would never even consider managing here.

*something MaTS was saying we lacked under EV and Frenkie now

Valverde and Setien are midtable managers but no other club in the world would leave them as powerless as they were here. I don't care if a manager has won everything or won a mere Copa.. they should be respected and they should decide who plays and where. now, are you gonna tell me Valverde, Setien and the next fall guy are really stupid enough to think Suarez and Busi playing whilst Messi walks around with no fixed position is a good idea??

Who care for his idea? Lmao save Puig for UCL yet dont let him play for even a second. Can not even use his subs properly. 2 matches only 4 subs (all useless subs). Turtle football from begining to the end.

Gift Liga tittle to RM and now the biggest humiliation in history of club.

Biggest fraud.
 

raedkuwait

Senior Member
Setien came with an idea of changing Barca - talking about playing youth more, more intense training sessions* and canceling the players mini holidays BUT he soon found out exactly who runs this club. the players were complaining about the training, club de amigos totally cucked him as they did Valverde. they are the biggest culprits and why managers like Klopp would never even consider managing here.

*something MaTS was saying we lacked under EV and Frenkie now

Valverde and Setien are midtable managers but no other club in the world would leave them as powerless as they were here. I don't care if a manager has won everything or won a mere Copa.. they should be respected and they should decide who plays and where. now, are you gonna tell me Valverde, Setien and the next fall guy are really stupid enough to think Suarez and Busi playing whilst Messi walks around with no fixed position is a good idea??
Totally agree with you.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
How about change the player first, you can't expect grannies to have the same energy just like the young players. A total overhaul even without Messi if that's what you people like. But be prepared to stay irrelevant for years and accept it and wait

Are we relevant now? Without Messi Def. Not
 

serghei

Senior Member
Setien came with an idea of changing Barca - talking about playing youth more, more intense training sessions* and canceling the players mini holidays BUT he soon found out exactly who runs this club. the players were complaining about the training, club de amigos totally cucked him as they did Valverde. they are the biggest culprits and why managers like Klopp would never even consider managing here.

*something MaTS was saying we lacked under EV and Frenkie now

Valverde and Setien are midtable managers but no other club in the world would leave them as powerless as they were here. I don't care if a manager has won everything or won a mere Copa.. they should be respected and they should decide who plays and where. now, are you gonna tell me Valverde, Setien and the next fall guy are really stupid enough to think Suarez and Busi playing whilst Messi walks around with no fixed position is a good idea??

That's all true.

I believe now even Valverde had some ideas. Both were cucked by the seniors and Bartomeu. Valverde did better mostly because the veterans were not as finished as they are now.

Now their legs are totally gone and there's no way back for them at this age, with so much mileage.
 
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vegitot

Senior Member
Valverde failed = 100% Valverde's fault. Replace him by whatever then Barca would return to Pep's Barca, treble incoming.

Setien failed (much worse) = 50% player's fault + 50% board, no one even Pep or Kloop can fix this team.

WTF is this???
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
Valverde failed = 100% Valverde's fault. Replace him by whatever then Barca would return to Pep's Barca, treble incoming.

Setien failed (much worse) = 50% player's fault + 50% board, no one even Pep or Kloop can fix this team.

WTF is this???

Both are trash and in both situations the board has also a fault.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Valverde failed = 100% Valverde's fault. Replace him by whatever then Barca would return to Pep's Barca, treble incoming.

Setien failed (much worse) = 50% player's fault + 50% board, no one even Pep or Kloop can fix this team.

WTF is this???

I think people realized now the players are past it and whoever built this team messed up big time.

Setien was in no win situation. He is the fall guy, but the real fall is made by the players and management.

I would blame Valverde a bit too. He didn't train players enough physically. (That's on players too, unwilling to workout).
 

vegitot

Senior Member
That's all true.

I believe now even Valverde had some ideas. Both were cucked by the seniors and Bartomeu. Valverde did better mostly because the veterans were not as finished as they are now.

Now their legs are totally gone and there's no way back for them at this age, with so much mileage.

Valverde is dozen times better than Setien. Both had no suppport from the board, except Valverde had from players and he did bring the best out of them (until Anfield nigh).

Now you blame veterans, true but how can you explain why he didnt use Puig??? Why he never care for his subs???

No need to defend this clown. Lost 8 goals, i have to repeat, 8 goals. Biggest humiliation in history of club and this will haunt all Barca fans for several decades, just like Brazilian with their 2014 humiliation.

Enjoy defending this clown, he is one of architects of your pain for several decades.

8-2, how can you guys even defend this result??? Why not accept he is the worst coach in history of club???
 

vegitot

Senior Member
I think people realized now the players are past it and whoever built this team messed up big time.

Setien was in no win situation. He is the fall guy, but the real fall is made by the players and management.

I would blame Valverde a bit too. He didn't train players enough physically. (That's on players too, unwilling to workout).

He had two points above RM before Covid. Then he gifted them Liga. No win my @ss.
 

Messigician

Senior Member
That's all true.

I believe now even Valverde had some ideas. Both were cucked by the seniors and Bartomeu. Valverde did better mostly because the veterans were not as finished as they are now.

Now their legs are totally gone and there's no way back for them at this age, with so much mileage.


Valverde overachieved he knew full well the limitations of the squad " it is what it is" and his creepy smile at the end after being sacked shows he knew exactly what was wrong with the squad which was nearing collapse.

Valverde is much more intelligent than people give him credit for
 

kattanib

Well-known member
Valverde failed = 100% Valverde's fault. Replace him by whatever then Barca would return to Pep's Barca, treble incoming.

Setien failed (much worse) = 50% player's fault + 50% board, no one even Pep or Kloop can fix this team.

WTF is this???
EV played Raki, while QS played Puig :)
 

Marshall D Teach

Well-known member
Valverde failed = 100% Valverde's fault. Replace him by whatever then Barca would return to Pep's Barca, treble incoming.

Setien failed (much worse) = 50% player's fault + 50% board, no one even Pep or Kloop can fix this team.

WTF is this???

It's the players' fault for being overrated has beens who still think they're hot shit and Valverde and Setien's fault for being cowardly mid table coaches who let said overrated past it players walk all over them.

It's beyond fixing at this point without wiping the slate clean but the amigo problem got a lot worse after Lucho left. Valverde and Setien contributed to the rot.
 

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