Rafa Benitez - The Destroyer of Teams

Beast

The Observer
We give Real of last season too much credit. Dnt even get into that Madridista way of thinking they were stronger than us but lack of rotations and injuries killed their season and allowed us to win the dribble.
We also lost to malaga twice doesnt make them better. They were better the first classico but so was psg, post Anoeta we owned all except for malaga and the classico was about even. The treble was fully deserved, its nice to win classico's but your season doesnt depend on it. We aso beat them twice in 2013/14 and won fuck all. Yet nobody gives us a similair amount of credit despite their trophy wins being more lucky/flukes than ours.

Part of winning your treble was the amount of points we dropped after Modric & James injuries...
there was no suitable sub and Isco is no Modric... there isn't something called too much credit.. you want to judge Real of last season judge the first half of the season when both were fit & we smoked everyone on our way...
..it wasn't a one off but if you want to see where you were & where we were .. just go back to the comments before Sociedad.. simple

Anyhow we reap what we saw.. and we are paying heavily for the bad decision of sacking Carlo & hiring the fat waiter against the wishes of everyone from the fans to the players
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Part of winning your treble was the amount of points we dropped after Modric & James injuries...
there was no suitable sub and Isco is no Modric... there isn't something called too much credit.. you want to judge Real of last season judge the first half of the season when both were fit & we smoked everyone on our way...
..it wasn't a one off but if you want to see where you were & where we were .. just go back to the comments before Sociedad.. simple

Anyhow we reap what we saw.. and we are paying heavily for the bad decision of sacking Carlo & hiring the fat waiter against the wishes of everyone from the fans to the players

Teams are rated on their squads not just their starting line ups.

Barca have just had Messi missing for a couple of months. No replacement for him either... Munir is no Messi.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Modric being out last season cost Madrid everything, lol now I have heard it all.

Wasn't the goat out for 2 months this season and we had to replace him with munir and where are we now.
 

zidaneisgod

New member
There is nothing called Business like demeanor in football... you are not dealing with papers & business decisions as a manager .. you are dealing with people who have their needs , emotions , love & hate etc... that's why Rafa failed in Liverpool after a good start , ditto Inter... hell even a player who was the fulcrum in his Liverpool side (Xabi ) ended up hating him... listen to Gerrard words on Rafa ...
Rafa tactics are outdated , his man-management are the worst ... there is simply no positive spin you can add to Rafa managerial period with Real .. his best period came 10 years ago and if that's the case i'd take Capello back who is head & shoulders better than Rafa in everything.. who knows how to build a team tactic despite failure as a national team manager

Actually even in non-football business you are dealing with human beings.
Some of Real Madrid's players need to stop acting like prima-donnas and feel grateful that they get millions of dollars to kick a bag of air.

What more should Benitez do?
Should he start cleaning their laundry, taking their kids to school and cooking for them too?
Why should the coach pander to their egos?
The players are not playing for free. They are paid to put in 110% effort.
In which world are these players living?
 

Morten

Senior Member
Actually even in non-football business you are dealing with human beings.
Some of Real Madrid's players need to stop acting like prima-donnas and feel grateful that they get millions of dollars to kick a bag of air.

What more should Benitez do?
Should he start cleaning their laundry, taking their kids to school and cooking for them too?
Why should the coach pander to their egos?
The players are not playing for free. They are paid to put in 110% effort.
In which world are these players living?

Rafa cant do anything because the club is run by morons, namely Perez. Benitez is a pretty awful manager, but Perez set him up for failure, not that i want Benitez to continue for long anyway, but just putting it out there. The team lacks any balance whatsoever, most of our players are overrated, overpayed, has-beens, doesnt fit, you name it. This mess cant be solved anytime soon, just gotta wait and see.
 
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Beast

The Observer
I thought we won the treble because we were the best team in Europe.

The league... you were not the best team till the shit happens.. you were second best till Modric injury... that you can't deny or fabricate .. it's FACHTS (Rafa style )
Modric being out last season cost Madrid everything, lol now I have heard it all.

Wasn't the goat out for 2 months this season and we had to replace him with munir and where are we now.
The CL is a different beast but for sure it did hand you the league.. it's not your fault... but it is what it is... pre-Modric injury Real was by far the best team in Europe by a country mile...
 

raskolnikov

Well-known member
The league... you were not the best team till the shit happens.. you were second best till Modric injury... that you can't deny or fabricate .. it's FACHTS (Rafa style )

The CL is a different beast but for sure it did hand you the league.. it's not your fault... but it is what it is... pre-Modric injury Real was by far the best team in Europe by a country mile...

I still feel we deserve the league more when you look at the h2h results. Real barely got any points against the top 4 right? 94 points due to the great post anoeta run, has nothing to do with Real, deserved champions.
 

Vlom

Previously known as Mehssi
Real got ridiculously (like pathetic) low points against LaLiga's top4, exactly 4 points out of 18 possible ... yeah sure, that's a team that "let us win the league".

Keep telling yourself that, then wonder why nothing ever changes or improve in madrid, even now still not a gram of humility or self awarness from neither the team nor their fans haha, they are still the best in the world, just letting everyone else win.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Indeed.

That was Ancelotti's biggest flaw. His team destroyed minnows but simply didn't perform as well as expected against better teams.

Real Madrid were also 2 cm away from getting knocked out by Schalke in the CL.

Ancelotti was definitely the better coach for them and they were very dangerous under him, but people for some reason understate the issues his team had too.

Real Madrid didn't let anyone win anything. On the contrary they were lucky themselves they didn't end up further behind in the league and got knocked out early in the CL.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Lol beast is something else, we are without messi and 6 points clear, but modric made them lose the league last season, Madrid started last season the way they started every season for years now, guns blazing and the samething always happen with 1 exception, eventually they slow down and come back down to earth, losing points against any time that puts up a fight and Barcelona start picking up momentum, the league isnt wont in December
 

Vlom

Previously known as Mehssi
We won 5 of the last 7 Ligas, VS 1 out of 7 (soon 8) for Madrid, but it's aaaaall Ok, they let us have them.

Thank you, I guess :lol:
 

Neymessi

Active member
We were second best because pre modric was before anoeta clash.Had modric been fit we would have still won the league because of how good we were post anoeta.
 

Vlom

Previously known as Mehssi
Huh? That ain't right?

2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11, 2012–13, 2014–15 = 5x Barça

2011-12 = 1x RM
2013-14 = 1x ATM ( 1 wrongly disallowed goal from being ours too )

Yeah, we're just that good (thanx to Madrid who lets us, of course).
 
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