Sterlingfan2000
Active member
This seems plausible. Bale has to play everytime he is back. Perez got mad at carlo for subbing bale at minute 86. The galactico has to play, even if they are shit
Rafa Benitez - The Destroyer of Teams
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This seems plausible. Bale has to play everytime he is back. Perez got mad at carlo for subbing bale at minute 86. The galactico has to play, even if they are shit
raskolnikov
Well-known member
Its all Perez though, he is like a kid playing fifa not getting tactics at all. "I want all the best players, why isnt this working like I want to? must be the coach"
Vlom
Previously known as Mehssi
There's a very good chance that's what happened, it's coherent with the rumours of players pressuring for a more attacking 11/style, and Pipi (from chiringuito, so not 100% reliable but this one seems to have some sense) said that on Thursday Casemiro left Benitez's office with a sad face after a private meeting, probably to tell him he will not be lined up.
Haha, there was just an article today on Marca saying that Casemiro is already the new Makelele
Vlom
Previously known as Mehssi
http://www.marca.com/2015/11/22/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1448180210.html
To avoid leaks to the medias Benitez didn't try any specific 11 during the 2 week preparation of the Clasico, and the players heard the line-up at the same time as the public.
Glorious
To avoid leaks to the medias Benitez didn't try any specific 11 during the 2 week preparation of the Clasico, and the players heard the line-up at the same time as the public.
Glorious
Beast
The Observer
This and more importantly this was 10 years ago...
Rafa is not a top manager nor he is in the top 10 managers... he like many other managers (Lippi, Capello , Trap etc ) all belong to 10 years ago football... football left & evolved and they can't cope ...few old managers can cope with the changes in time & tactics like SAF /Jopp ..etc the others who try to play the same way fade into memory..
if anyone watched Napoli final game of last season when a win was all they needed to guarantee a CL spot and how they bottled it wouldn't be surprised of last Saturday game...
the sooner we sack his ass the better
Where is Eddie now ? His Liverpool god got exposed ...
Beast
The Observer
The Benitez love fest marched by the man who he made a lot of money from (Balague ) is the one behind softening the blow on his former client
If he played Casemiro no one would blame him at all... especially the fans who love the Brazilian endless effort .. this is a BS opinion to make Rafa a victim
No one told him to play injured Ramos who was fearing a relapse on his shoulder injury (and looked complete out of form ) when he had a 2 weeks fit Pepe in the subs .. Ramos takes the blame of 2-3 goals in the clasico
Kroos was out of form so was Bale.. why James was removed ? why the much better & more experienced Carvajal not played when he KNOWS from Seville game Danilo limitation ? if you got skinned by the Seville winger.. than Neymar would crucify you .. it takes no genius to figure it out..
It's not about playing the stars too , i'm sure you & everyone else saw the images of the gaps between the DF + MF compared to the BBC... who would allow Barcelona of ALL TEAMS all this space ?? only a dumbass
See Carlo did it in the Copa & again last year... he switched to a close tight 4-4-2 where Ronaldo plays behind the striker & Isco LM or CM and without a single DM (to answer the Casemiro card ) and it worked brilliantly in the 2-1 Copa win & the 3-1 in the Bernabeu
let's not boil down the pathetic RM display to a single player when we beat Atletico Madrid in the final without a DM and last year we showed much better game with the same lineup also without a DM .. including the 2 clasico
the problem lies in the manager not the players on the pitch ... apart from Navas (which is mainly due to being the no 1 keeper ) who improved under Rafa ? even Casemiro is coming off a brilliant loan season at Porto & lately (as we saw in Seville ) he was not good
Sterlingfan2000
Active member
According to balague, perez give him the OK to bench anyone expect Gareth bale.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
balague at his best ,a little bit of truth (or what the media said) with a lot of the stuff he makes as a flavor
JamDav1982
Senior Member
http://www.marca.com/2015/11/22/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1448180210.html
To avoid leaks to the medias Benitez didn't try any specific 11 during the 2 week preparation of the Clasico, and the players heard the line-up at the same time as the public.
Glorious
Sounds ridiculous but a bit misleading as the players have been away for intl duty for all but 3/4 days.
It is not uncommon for managers not to let the players know the exact team until it is announced.
Supposedly Lucho didnt even know if Messi/Rakitic involvement for sure until morning of game. Teams can work on tactics etc without saying for sure who is in each position.
Raed
Dr. Raed St. Claire
He has no philosophy. It is all borrowed, outdated, unoriginal, exposed and worst thing about it is that it offends the players on a personal level. Top it off with an extremely unlikable character, he can just fuck right off.
Raed
Dr. Raed St. Claire
I was guaging my eyes when I saw the line up that is a carbon copy of Ancelotti's knowing that Ancelotti who invented it suffered from it himself but Rafa added his own flavor, he LEFT OUT THE BIGGEST TRICK TO IT: The COMPACT 4 FUCKING 4 2 that Ancelotti worked on for MONTHS. What a fuckin twat. Uuughhhh he also had ample matches to learn from...the Mourinho first match manita being the biggest example..that was the exact same scenario with MUCH better players.
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Vlom
Previously known as Mehssi
No they were not mate, only James was on intl duty (and Nacho who didn't play nor was called up for clasico), all the others escaped and were there during the 2 weeks.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Sacking Ancelotti was a bad decision, but that's Real Madrid for you.... I think Florentino also particularly disliked the very close relationship between the players and him and wanted a more disciplined approach towards them. I bet he's a big fan of Mourinho despite of him fucking up and playing dirty.
Good for us though.
I do however also think the Real Madrid players share a part of the blame. Too much of a diva attitude. Get your heads out of your asses and atleast try. Help out instead of bitching all the time it doesn't go your way.
Good for us though.
I do however also think the Real Madrid players share a part of the blame. Too much of a diva attitude. Get your heads out of your asses and atleast try. Help out instead of bitching all the time it doesn't go your way.
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footyfan
Calma, calma
I rewatched the game yesterday and it's extremely clear he doesn't have the support of the players. In the Sky Sports post match show, Henry passed some remarks about the same thing. They did not give even 70%, let alone 100. The Madrid players should really be embarrassed at their display yesterday. Ramos and Varane were awful in pretty much all the goals, Kroos is always in no-man's land, BBC did not track bad, nor did they show any desire to help the team. The only OK players were James and Marcelo (Modric tried but messed up too often).
Ultimately it's Rafa's fault that he doesn't have his players' confidence, but for yesterday's game I wouldn't pin the problems entirely on his tactics. Not sure if even playing Casemiro would have helped. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if Rafa played his most attacking players to keep Flo and Cristiano happy.
Look at this, nobody came to help Modric for the 2nd Barca goal:
https://streamable.com/wzq0
Ultimately it's Rafa's fault that he doesn't have his players' confidence, but for yesterday's game I wouldn't pin the problems entirely on his tactics. Not sure if even playing Casemiro would have helped. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if Rafa played his most attacking players to keep Flo and Cristiano happy.
Look at this, nobody came to help Modric for the 2nd Barca goal:
https://streamable.com/wzq0
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zidaneisgod
New member
I can't understand the hate for Benitez.
It seems his professional business-like demeanor, which at times makes him seem cold and distant, is clouding everyone's judgement.
He has had to deal with numerous injuries, players who can't be dropped due to commercial/political reasons, a prima-donna who is now a nightmare to deal with and a media that is out to get him.
Yet Real Madrid are only 6 points behind with 26 games left. An unbiased analysis of those 26 games indicates that Real Madrid have an easier fixture list than Atletico and Barca.
The real problems lie with:
1. Impatient fan base. (most of us?)
2. A haphazard transfer policy. (blame Perez?)
3. Internal politics which have given some players way too much power. (blame Perez?)
4. Media (an issue in every country?)
My only problem with Benitez was that he should have stuck to his beliefs and kept Casemiro and Carvajal in the squad.
It seems his professional business-like demeanor, which at times makes him seem cold and distant, is clouding everyone's judgement.
He has had to deal with numerous injuries, players who can't be dropped due to commercial/political reasons, a prima-donna who is now a nightmare to deal with and a media that is out to get him.
Yet Real Madrid are only 6 points behind with 26 games left. An unbiased analysis of those 26 games indicates that Real Madrid have an easier fixture list than Atletico and Barca.
The real problems lie with:
1. Impatient fan base. (most of us?)
2. A haphazard transfer policy. (blame Perez?)
3. Internal politics which have given some players way too much power. (blame Perez?)
4. Media (an issue in every country?)
My only problem with Benitez was that he should have stuck to his beliefs and kept Casemiro and Carvajal in the squad.
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