Real Madrid (old thread)

[El Gato]

Mate, despite the fact that it's Ducky criticising you, it isn't right to have such formation.

 

[Chainsaw]

Mate, despite the fact that it's Ducky criticising you, it isn't right to have such formation.

They are two formations that can actually be played if you two have any problem with that. Or maybe because I wrote the formations too compact maybe you found it unusual. Here is the third one that Inter actually plays right now:

--------------------JC-----------------
--Maicon--Lucio--Cordoba--Chivu--
-----------Zanetti--Cambiasso------
-----Pandev---Sneijder---Kaka-----
------------------Eto'o----------------

What about this coaches?!

 

[El Gato]

Even though Kaka could play at the position you're describing, he would be much, much less efficient. He isn't a player to have a fixed range of offensive responsibilities and wouldn't be a good fit for a left winger who in this case would need to supply Eto'o. Kaka needs to have a free role and a partner like CR to feel comfortable with. Sneijder and Kaka are too similar in terms of roaming to play in one team. It's like putting Sneijder next to Van Der Vaart in a dream team and hoping for a good result and co-work.

 

[Chainsaw]

Even though Kaka could play at the position you're describing, he would be much, much less efficient. He isn't a player to have a fixed range of offensive responsibilities and wouldn't be a good fit for a left winger who in this case would need to supply Eto'o. Kaka needs to have a free role and a partner like CR to feel comfortable with. Sneijder and Kaka are too similar in terms of roaming to play in one team. It's like putting Sneijder next to Van Der Vaart in a dream team and hoping for a good result and co-work.

Kaka and Sneijder have similar playstyle?!!!! Kaka and and Sneijder have totally different playstyle through and through! Kaka get through the defence with his stability on moving the ball forward and he also use his speed and body balance in cutting inside the defence. Sneijder doesn't have such elements. He is more like the director of the attacks. Kaka is all in all more mobile player than Sneijder. VDV and Sneijder are similar players. Kaka is different player to both of 'em. Plus just because he's playing at the left doesn't mean that he has to play as a winger. Kaka is more suited to play in that position than Eto'o.

 

[Peerd]

Kaka and Sneijder have similar playstyle?!!!! Kaka and and Sneijder have totally different playstyle through and through! Kaka get through the defence with his stability on moving the ball forward and he also use his speed and body balance in cutting inside the defence. Sneijder doesn't have such elements. He is more like the director of the attacks. Kaka is all in all more mobile player than Sneijder. VDV and Sneijder are similar players. Kaka is different player to both of 'em. Plus just because he's playing at the left doesn't mean that he has to play as a winger. Kaka is more suited to play in that position than Eto'o.

Van der Vaart and Sneijder are not that similar at all though... their style is different.... Raf is much more a "classic" no 10, more technique, vision and passing than speed. Sneijder is more all-round.

 

[El Gato]

Not playstyle, roaming style. They work in similar areas of the pitch rarely abandoning them, maybe Sneijder works harder when he needs to, but the idea is the same.

Yes, Kaka is a skillful guy looking for opportunity to make some magic himself, but he is ball dominant and his role wouldn't work with Sneijder's likeability of directing the play. In 4-2-3-1 AM is always the brain of the offensive formation and having two brains (Kaka would never give that role up) is never good for chemistry, unless your names are Xavi and Iniesta, but they play further back in midfield and don't roam as much due to team playstyle.

Also, Kaka would never work as a winger, because he isn't the Ronaldo type of player. He is just more goalscoring focused Ozil. And if we're into Eto'o-Kaka comparison then in Inter's case he isn't better suited to the formation, because Eto'o contributes to defence and works hard which is needed and expected in Inter's case where as Kaka is a lazy bastard waiting for the ball to come to him, at least that's what he was under Pellegrini.

 

[Chainsaw]

Not playstyle, roaming style. They work in similar areas of the pitch rarely abandoning them, maybe Sneijder works harder when he needs to, but the idea is the same.

Yes, Kaka is a skillful guy looking for opportunity to make some magic himself, but he is ball dominant and his role wouldn't work with Sneijder's likeability of directing the play. In 4-2-3-1 AM is always the brain of the offensive formation and having two brains (Kaka would never give that role up) is never good for chemistry, unless your names are Xavi and Iniesta, but they play further back in midfield and don't roam as much due to team playstyle.

Also, Kaka would never work as a winger, because he isn't the Ronaldo type of player. He is just more goalscoring focused Ozil. And if we're into Eto'o-Kaka comparison then in Inter's case he isn't better suited to the formation, because Eto'o contributes to defence and works hard which is needed and expected in Inter's case where as Kaka is a lazy bastard waiting for the ball to come to him, at least that's what he was under Pellegrini.

I've barely seen Kaka being a lazy player. You've mistaken him with Riquelme perhaps. Plus, I don't think of Kaka as a AM or Winger in Inter's team. Those formations were just the examples that coaches could use with Kaka in the team. For me, I see Kaka as more of an second striker in Inter. Kinda another point of the attack trident besides Sneijder and Eto'o. Kaka use to cut from left deep into the opponent's defence. He uses that trick alot in his playing. And good thing about Kaka in Inter is that he add sharpness, creativity and moblity into Inter's attack. Something that Inter lacks right now upfront. That's why in the first two formations I put 3 physical midfielders behind the attack trident so that Kaka don't be needed to act as a winger and lose too much energy coming back to defend. If my memory serves me correctly Kaka was playing as the SS the year he won CL with Milan and been named the best player in the world. Though he had more freedom than a SS but still he was playing the role of a SS behind the sole striker Inzaghi.

 

[barcetia]

hahahahahhaHAHAHAHAHHhahahaha
Perez officially a member of the board in Spanish football federation.
Typicaaaaaal!
hahahahHAHAHHhahahah

 

[Sammie]

hahahahahhaHAHAHAHAHHhahahaha
Perez officially a member of the board in Spanish football federation.
Typicaaaaaal!
hahahahHAHAHHhahahah

For real?!

 

[gingerless]

hahahahahhaHAHAHAHAHHhahahaha
Perez officially a member of the board in Spanish football federation.
Typicaaaaaal!
hahahahHAHAHHhahahah

......?????????????????????????

 

[Sammie]

Perez is now an official board member of the RFEF. Surely this is a joke?

 

[Beast]

Ah.. lack of knowledge
Perez being elected a board member in the RFEF is liking telling a Spaniard you are now an owner of a "SEAT"

F.Y.I... RFEF board members

Chairman:
D. D. Ángel María Villar Llona Angel Maria Villar Llona
Vicepresidente Adjunto a la Presidencia. Assistant to the Vice Presidency. Asuntos Económicos: Economic Affairs:
D. D. Juan Padrón Morales Juan Padron Morales
Vicepresidente. Vice President. Presidente Liga Nacional de Fútbol Aficionado: National Football League president Aficionado:
D. D. Vicente Muñoz Castelló Vicente Castelló Muñoz
Vicepresidente para Asuntos Internacionales e Institucionales: Vice President for International and Institutional Affairs:
D. D. Juan Gaspart Solves Juan Gaspart Solves
Vicepresidente: Vice President:
D. D. José Luis Astiazarán Iriondo José Luis Astiazaran Iriondo
Tesorero: Treasurer:
D. D. Juan Luis Larrea Sarobe Juan Luis Larrea Sarobe
Presidente Comtié Técnico de Árbitros: President COMTI Technical Officials:
D. D. Victoriano Sánchez Arminio Victoriano Sánchez Arminio
Presidente Comité Nacional de Entrenadores: National Coaching Committee Chairman:
D. D. Eduardo Caturla Vázquez Caturla Eduardo Vázquez
Asesor: Advisor:
D. D. Ernesto Garrastachu Marín Ernesto Marin Garrastachu
Vocales: Members:

* D. D. Jacinto Alonso Marañón Jacinto Alonso Maranon
D. D. Jokin Aperribay Beadialauneta Jokin Aperribay Beadialauneta
D. D. Santiago Arostegi Oleagordia Santiago Arostegi Oleagordia
D. D. Eduardo Bandrés Moliné Eduardo Moline Bandrés
D. D. Miguel Bestard Cabot Miguel Bestard Cabot
D. D. Valentín Botella Ros Bottle Valentine Ros
D. D. Ricard Campoy Gómez Gómez Ricard Campoy
D. D. Jorge H. Jorge H. Carretero García Carretero García
D. D. Jordi Casals Vilalta Casals Jordi Vilalta
D. D. Enrique Cerezo Torres Enrique Cerezo Torres
D. D. Miguel Concepción Cáceres Miguel Concepción Cáceres
D. D. José María del Nido Benavente Jose Maria del Nido Benavente
D. D. José Luis Díez Díaz José Luis Díez Díaz
D. D. Antonio Escribano Ramos Antonio Ramos Escribano
D. D. Alfonso García Gabarrón Alfonso García Gabarrón
D. D. Antonio García Gaona Antonio García Gaona
D. D. Fernando García Macua Fernando García Macua
D. D. Ubaldo González Garrote Ubaldo González Garrote
D. D. Eduardo Herrera Jiménez Eduardo Herrera Jiménez
D. D. Francisco J. Francisco J. "Patxi" Izco Ilundain "Patxi" Izco Ilundain
D. D. Joan Laporta i Estruch Joan Laporta i Estruch
D. D. Augusto César Lendoiro Augusto César Lendoiro
D. D. José León Gómez José León Gómez
D. D. Manuel Llorente Martín Manuel Martín Llorente
D. D. Diego Martínez Gómez Diego Martínez Gómez
D. D. Maximino Martínez Suárez Maximino Martínez Suárez
D. D. Marcelino Maté Martínez Marcelino Martínez Maté
D. D. Carlos Meana Pereiro Pereiro Carlos Meana
D. D. Julio Meana Álvarez Meana July Álvarez
D. D. Francisco Mendoza Taboada Francisco Mendoza Taboada
DJ Miguel Monje Carrillo Monk DJ Miguel Carrillo
D. D. Manuel Carlos Mouriño Atanes Manuel Carlos Mouriño Atanes
D. D. Juan de Dios Monterde Macías Juan de Dios Monterde Macías
D. D. Francisco Pernía Calvo Francisco Calvo Pernia
D. D. Miguel Ángel Ramírez Alonso Miguel Angel Ramírez Alonso
D. D. Fernando Roig Alfonso Fernando Roig Alfonso
D. D. Xavier Salvadó Rastrero Xavier Salvado Creeper
D. D. Jesús Samper Vidal Jesus Samper Vidal
D. D. Fernando Sanz Durán Duran Fernando Sanz
D. D. José Sepulcre Coves José Sepulchre Coves
D. D. Antonio Suárez Santana Antonio Suárez Santana
D. D. Carlos Suárez Sureda Carlos Suárez Sureda
D. D. Vicente Temprado García Vicente García Temprado
D. D. Pedro Tomás Marqués Peter Thomas Marquis
D. D. Ángel Torres Sánchez Ángel Torres Sánchez
D. D. Manuel Vega-Arango Alvaré Manuel Vega-Arango Alvaré
D. D. Alberto Vilar Mendiguchia Alberto Vilar Mendiguchia
D. D. Fernando Vara del Rey Fernando Vara del Rey
D. D. Javier Lozano Cid Javier Lozano Cid

And i highlighted your own Gaspart who is more than a board member , as you can see it's not like Perez is now in a secret society of 3 people who run the Spanish Football.. it's an orgy of people

 

[Myrmecophile]

Has someone really tried to suggest on here that Kaka could play as a left-winger

 

[Raed]

No offence but that is retarded.

Why?

The second formation is what made Kaka famous. Him playing as a second striker behind Sheva or Pippo was Kaka's favorite role as he was able to collect the ball on either the right or the left from Pirlo's and Seedorf's passes while Ambrossini and Gattusso protected the full backs and the deep play makers.

The first formation is essentially the Christmas tree but NimAyra did not post it properly.

 

[Trequartista]

it can be a diamond as well with Sniejder in a deeper role,Kaka behind Eto'o and Milito but I still think that Inter need creative players from wide positions not centrally