Real Madrid (old thread)

[Beast]

Silvio really has nothing to do with it though, he is a proprietor of an Italian football club, a position that has no similarities or relevance to Mourinho's conduct as manager of Real Madrid.

You admit you don't like the way he conducts himself and how he makes your players conduct themselves, yet you still support his position for entertainment - it has not yielded any meaningful success anyway. So again - why? Why do you value that at the huge damage it is doing to your club, which you clearly accept it is, as you talk of being able to fix it once he is gone. Surely it would be easier, if not appropriate anyway, to sack him for his gross misconduct and total lack of professionalism?

Silvio is more hated than Jose , especially for me ..
I don't like the way he conduct himself but i like the way he manage the team tactically .. he is hated by rivals , entertainment for us but he is a great manager and managed to push Barca all the way and the team.. he is a successful manager , you don't sack him (nor do you sack Eto'o for insults , Busquets for simulation or Marcelo for his tackle on Cesc ) you give him a fine /ban & it's end of story for us and a long story for the others which in that case i don't mind ... people will continue to insult him and talk about him for the next 2-3 weeks .. i really don't care what they say neither did i care what they kept saying this last year .. for me it's the football not the antics he pull
Real Madrid name will not be harmed , people already hated Jose before he took over he was cule's number 1 enemy before he set a foot in Madrid , that hasn't changed nor they will suddenly start to like him... i appreciate your worries about our "Reputation " but i've been around longer than you and the post Jose affects is simply ZERO same way his post effects with Chelsea & Inter now is zero

 

[La Furia]

What makes Silvio hated has little to do with football though. He's used Milan for propaganda, but if you want to play that card expect someone to play the Franco card within minutes.

Virtually every football club owner/president should be in jail anyway.

 

[Birdy]

If you can't see the difference not even the book of football would help you.. u are better off buying new glasses or watch a different sport

Simple question with not a bit of irony in it and your answer was this....
You once again showed your class..
Sorry, but you must be one of the most immature members of this forum..
You cannot hold even a basic discussion..
I wonder how old are you really..


@XaviFCB

thanks for the try..

 

[Beast]

Old enough to avoid silly questions especially when the answer are not a secret

 

[Birdy]

Old enough to avoid silly questions especially when the answer are not a secret

The answer is a matter of opinion, not a fact that can be kept a secret..
Anyway, it is not the answer itself that bothers or any possible disagreement (which can be actually very constractive), but your remorse..
You have to learn some manners..

 

[jamrock]

why do you guys have a debate with beast about Jose Madrid, if a serial rapist was in charge of real, he would try to make it out, has real doing some great thing.

 

[estranged]

Yea Beast and Wolfe are seriously deluded and very biased, gave up trying to have a decent debate with them.

 

[Birdy]

No, i dont think so..

Every time i start a conversation or a even class with Wolfe, he is a very decent interlocutor.. He expresses his opinions, biased or unbiased does not matter, and does not insult the other party personally..

I dont have to say that the same and more apply for Raed also..


And i am really puzzled about the administrators here.. I have got a warning a couple of times for semi-ironical quotes (-always about the theme in question and never personal-) and Beast employs his usual (non) manners all the time to almost everyone disagreeing with him..
And he still goes on doing the same..

 

[Barcafan 2304]

Alves is like Carlos or CR, a freak of nature in terms of fitness .. you can't compare him to normal players

Say's he who just compared him to carlos and CR....

 

[Beast]

why do you guys have a debate with beast about Jose Madrid, if a serial rapist was in charge of real, he would try to make it out, has real doing some great thing.

I thought you had your humble pie in the super cup with regards to your post , no ? still a survivor

The answer is a matter of opinion, not a fact that can be kept a secret..
Anyway, it is not the answer itself that bothers or any possible disagreement (which can be actually very constractive), but your remorse..
You have to learn some manners..

Real tactics is not a matter of opinion , it's a fact and a history over 180 minutes.. if i say we played defensively would that be an opinion ? no it would be rubbish
my answers usually relate to the person asking and his previous posts , if Meta ,Irvin, Bojan ,Woobie,Pepe Silva,Plip.Poor Sunyol,HOF etc asked this i would answer and in details ..although they wouldn't ask such silly questions but i know there is some nice tactical debate will commence
but If you and few other members asked ... you will get the exact same answer you didn't like , cause someone like you (with his history of posts ) would actually argue that Real played with 9 defenders blah blah blah and talk about entirely different game... so to cut it short you shouldn't be expecting proper answers from me anytime soon
Good enough explanation ?

 

[jamrock]

I thought you had your humble pie in the super cup with regards to your post , no ? still a survivor

what humble pie, the humble pie that saw a team that thier coach should not have allowed to have a relaxing summer, and it was no excuse if they lost. (wonder who said that)

beating a fitter, faster, more aggressive, but at the end of the day not quite good enough real madrid, in a match jose and his boys so wanted to win, no matter how he or you will try to play it.

my humble tease pretty sweet to be honest.

i wonder how you victory pie tease.

what a great team this is, it has turned real into the team with the inferiority complex.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

Another superb post by Bojan.

Beast, with all due respect, teasing is what little kids do. Children who have yet to lead, to grow up, to gain experience. Child qualities that are not something you would expect from a manager/leader at a club as big as yours. Mourinho's antics have spread like wildfire - making even the most mild mannered and respected Blanco appear foolish and classless (see Iker/Xabi), and if you think your reputation remains untarnished, think again.

Mourinho is making a mockery of your club president and office, having made it appear that what they have been witnessing over the last few seasons was merely "harmless fun" and "acceptable behavior" when in fact the rest of the footballing world understands that it was much more severe than that.

It has been a wild ride of disgusting behavior and has undoubtedly damaged your clubs reputation. There is very little funny about it, just poor all around. Going around teasing Barca like some retarded jester? Think about what a jester does- provide cheap laughs and jokes- if that's funny to you then laugh away. Your current manager is a joke. We will be laughing our way to some more silverware with our hard work and philosophy.

 

[Barcafan 2304]

Another superb post by Bojan.

Beast, with all due respect, teasing is what little kids do. Children who have yet to lead, to grow up, to gain experience. Child qualities that are not something you would expect from a manager/leader at a club as big as yours. Mourinho's antics have spread like wildfire - making even the most mild mannered and respected Blanco appear foolish and classless (see Iker/Xabi), and if you think your reputation remains untarnished, think again.

Mourinho is making a mockery of your club president and office, having made it appear that what they have been witnessing over the last few seasons was merely "harmless fun" and "acceptable behavior" when in fact the rest of the footballing world understands that it was much more severe than that.

It has been a wild ride of disgusting behavior and has undoubtedly damaged your clubs reputation. There is very little funny about it, just poor all around. Going around teasing Barca like some retarded jester? Think about what a jester does- provide cheap laughs and jokes- if that's funny to you then laugh away. Your current manager is a joke. We will be laughing our way to some more silverware with our hard work and philosophy.

arty1:

 

[Xavi_78]

Gio,

I can not understand how you can label such an act of malice as tease and fun. A friend told me that in rugby, surely no pussy sport, to attack somebodys eye is the lowest of low and surely no expression of being a man, how Mou assured as in his PK he was raised.

 

[Birdy]

Real tactics is not a matter of opinion , it's a fact and a history over 180 minutes.. if i say we played defensively would that be an opinion ? no it would be rubbish
my answers usually relate to the person asking and his previous posts , if Meta ,Irvin, Bojan ,Woobie,Pepe Silva,Plip.Poor Sunyol,HOF etc asked this i would answer and in details ..although they wouldn't ask such silly questions but i know there is some nice tactical debate will commence
but If you and few other members asked ... you will get the exact same answer you didn't like , cause someone like you (with his history of posts ) would actually argue that Real played with 9 defenders blah blah blah and talk about entirely different game... so to cut it short you shouldn't be expecting proper answers from me anytime soon
Good enough explanation ?

1) "answers usually relate to the person asking and his previous posts" : this is a common fallacy in discussion and is called 'Appeal to authority' (or the opposite of an authority.. Same function)

2) Besides, i dont like you either from what you post and how you insult people, but i am obliged to continue discussing with you all day long for the simple reason that we are not alone here.. There are so many people reading the forum.. We represent opinions, especially in long-post debates.. If you fail to support your argument, you lose.. Your argument loses.. No matter who expressed the opinion..

3) You don't have the right to insult other people, no matter what you make of their posts and history.. This should have been taken care long time ago by the administrators.. I dont know if they are friend of yours, but this has been pointed out by some other members also and is unacceptable..

4) Tactics is a matter of interpretation, unless you can provide me with the extended tactical analysis or report by the coaching stuff.. As long as this does not happen, everyone is free to express his POV on the strategies employed and he can back this up with any kind of arguments.. And the arguments class is what makes all of the interest there.. Divergence in opinions can be minimal or great.. Its up to anyone to think and agree or disagree..

5) You simple dont know what i will argue.. And really in the few debates between us, you have not proven me wrong, but instead you have demonstrated your ability to insult...