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Yugi

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there´s no need to disscuss with Beast about this, he clearly knows his truth and you can clearly see that his truth is certainly what is true and you will never convince him about anything else... it was tease and fun for him and that´s it, dont try to argue with him, you waste your precious time
 

Yugi

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Real Madrid player Casillas called Puyol yesterday to apologize for his behaviour during the clasico. He couldn't reach Xavi. [tv3 via md]

this tell you something.....
 

Beast

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Another superb post by Bojan.

Beast, with all due respect, teasing is what little kids do. Children who have yet to lead, to grow up, to gain experience. Child qualities that are not something you would expect from a manager/leader at a club as big as yours. Mourinho's antics have spread like wildfire - making even the most mild mannered and respected Blanco appear foolish and classless (see Iker/Xabi), and if you think your reputation remains untarnished, think again.

Mourinho is making a mockery of your club president and office, having made it appear that what they have been witnessing over the last few seasons was merely "harmless fun" and "acceptable behavior" when in fact the rest of the footballing world understands that it was much more severe than that.

It has been a wild ride of disgusting behavior and has undoubtedly damaged your clubs reputation. There is very little funny about it, just poor all around. Going around teasing Barca like some retarded jester? Think about what a jester does- provide cheap laughs and jokes- if that's funny to you then laugh away. Your current manager is a joke. We will be laughing our way to some more silverware with our hard work and philosophy.

Jose can't make a mockery of the club , his actions reflect on the club relation with Barcelona and that's dealt with by the president and your president ..both know that the action still represent Jose behavior not the club behavior
It doesn't transmit or reflect to the entire club and to quote you guys .. having some idiots make racist chants for Marcelo doesn't make all cule's racist or all those who attended the game racist , ditto for the Bernabeu ..
Reputation of clubs never stained by such persons who is Jose Mourinho compared to Real Madrid ? he is nobody and will die one day but the club will live forever .. it's not a case of the club was small till Jose took over u know that Pepe
Gio,

I can not understand how you can label such an act of malice as tease and fun. A friend told me that in rugby, surely no pussy sport, to attack somebodys eye is the lowest of low and surely no expression of being a man, how Mou assured as in his PK he was raised.

In my first post after the second leg i condemned both Marcelo and Jose for their actions .. however i would be lying if i say i didn't laugh when i saw that..i did laugh and i laughed on the guy in my avatar ..i mean there is nothing to gain from what he did nor he will hurt Tito eyes .. it was so childish it was funny

1) "answers usually relate to the person asking and his previous posts" : this is a common fallacy in discussion and is called 'Appeal to authority' (or the opposite of an authority.. Same function)

2) Besides, i dont like you either from what you post and how you insult people, but i am obliged to continue discussing with you all day long for the simple reason that we are not alone here.. There are so many people reading the forum.. We represent opinions, especially in long-post debates.. If you fail to support your argument, you lose.. Your argument loses.. No matter who expressed the opinion..

3) You don't have the right to insult other people, no matter what you make of their posts and history.. This should have been taken care long time ago by the administrators.. I dont know if they are friend of yours, but this has been pointed out by some other members also and is unacceptable..

4) Tactics is a matter of interpretation, unless you can provide me with the extended tactical analysis or report by the coaching stuff.. As long as this does not happen, everyone is free to express his POV on the strategies employed and he can back this up with any kind of arguments.. And the arguments class is what makes all of the interest there.. Divergence in opinions can be minimal or great.. Its up to anyone to think and agree or disagree..

5) You simple dont know what i will argue.. And really in the few debates between us, you have not proven me wrong, but instead you have demonstrated your ability to insult...

1- sorry that's me , your posts reflects on you .. some people get along some people don't get along that's how life is we can't change that.. just because your previous replies don't (IMO ) make it worthy for a reply from my side doesn't mean i do that with others .. just some selected members

2- I don't expect you to like me nor i long for that , however you asked me personally and i have the right to reply or not to reply i didn't seek for it..and there is no loser or winner in a debate , a debate represent two sides of an argument , i don't expect to change your opinion after a debate and you should not expect others to change my (or others ) opinion after a debate .. it's not a competition it's a discussion sometimes educational , sometimes fun but there is no win or lose just two different point of views.. people debate and continue their own way unless there is a wager involved based on an outcome

3- there was no insult in my post there or now , branding a question silly is stating a statues of question i never said birdy is silly , i don't have any special treatment from the admins or anyone else , i was warned 2 days ago by Lindsay .. insults are something else completely and it's not you who decide what should be taken care of too long ;)

4- Success is a matter of interpretation ,tactics are not our 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 or pressure , highline /attacking approach is not a subject to debate it's a matter of fact
no one said don't express your opinion but no one is forcing me or others to reply to you , agree with the rest of the post however don't be sad if your previous arguments over here didn't make me interested in replying cause it will be one of those completely opposite of everyone's opinion.. i don't subscribe to debating with those who say anything to just to be different , it's a waste of time (age & experience play a role in that opinion )

5- I don't know ? you birdy ? you would probably say Real played the exact same way like last year :lol: , again "PROVEN ME WRONG" ... Put yourself in my shoes would u debate with someone who take a debate as "PROVEN ME WRONG " and "WIN OR LOSE" ...debates are not a competition it's a demonstration of two points of view.. there is no right or wrong unless you are arguing history like you tried before when you said Billardo didn't play 3-5-2 in WC 86... duh
 

Raed

Dr. Raed St. Claire
Line is busy apparently. Xavi has been calling the referee the past two days to tell him what he did wrong in the entire match. Last time Xavi reached the referee he only got to the 36th minutes before the referee hung up, disconnected his phone line and changed addresses.
 
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estranged

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I don't really know what is funny about a guy going around poking his finger in peoples eyes, and if you find that funny then I really would worry about you. You must be a sadist or some shit to find that funny.
Personally I just thought: "Wow, what the fuck, what a classless animal" when I saw that...
 

Beast

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Line is busy apparently. Xavi has been calling the referee the past two days to tell him what he did wrong in the entire match. Last time Xavi reached the referee he only got to the 36th minutes before the referee hung up, disconnected his phone line and changed addresses.

:lol:
I don't really know what is funny about a guy going around poking his finger in peoples eyes, and if you find that funny then I really would worry about you. You must be a sadist or some shit to find that funny.
Personally I just thought: "Wow, what the fuck, what a classless animal" when I saw that...

It was funny cause it's very childish and i was "WTF Jose.... lolllll "
 

adil_909

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He couldn't reach Xavi , he talked with Puyol ... Iker is trying to bring peace

i would hope he'd apologize, his team's actions were disgusting.

unlike jose pepe marcelo ramos and others, iker actually has class.

and regarding the eye poking - i'm sure you wouldn't be laughing if someone came from behind and poked you in the eye for no reason. but yes, let's all laugh ha ha so funny when jose does it.

if one of our staff members had done it to someone on the madrid bench, mourinho would be crying about the incident for the next 20 years.
 

Pepe Silvia

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Jose can't make a mockery of the club ,
Oh but he can and he has. Have you been reading the press over the last few days???

his actions reflect on the club relation with Barcelona and that's dealt with by the president and your president ..both know that the action still represent Jose behavior not the club behavior
See that is where you and I disagree. The actions of Jose stop becomming that of just Jose once he signs on as manager for Real Madrid. He then becomes an arm, a direct representative of the club. When he says anything in the media, lashes out or acts up, he is speaking for his CLUB. Let me give you this example. Public Relations (PR) people make millions of dollars for one thing: to portray companies (mainly large ones who can afford it) as good and well intentioned when things go wrong in the media. Those PR people are solely responsible for lifting the company image and if they fail, they can literally make a company tank overnight, stock prices plummet, stakeholders cash out, company folds you get the picture. Do you see where I am going with this? You can not separate the PR actions from the company and it no longer becomes an individual problem but it becomes the company problem as a whole. That's where this has gone because of Jose.

It doesn't transmit or reflect to the entire club and to quote you guys .. having some idiots make racist chants for Marcelo doesn't make all cule's racist or all those who attended the game racist , ditto for the Bernabeu ..
That is just human nature. There are bad and good people everywhere and to think that one place has only good or only bad people is just nonsense and not worth discussing. That is not the point though. Florentino hired Mourinho fully conscious of how much of a cunt and classless person he is. Suppose Florentino hired one of those fans making racist chants just because they were a good coach. Would that be any different from him hiring Jose? I don't think so. So why put up with Mourinho's crap? It smells like a case of desperation and Real Madrid with its rich history should not come off as desperate.

Reputation of clubs never stained by such persons who is Jose Mourinho compared to Real Madrid ?
Maybe. As I stated before though, your president sure does look weak not speaking against this or taking any action and it sure doesn't improve anything.

he is nobody and will die one day but the club will live forever .. it's not a case of the club was small till Jose took over u know that Pepe
I never stated that your club was small until Jose took reigns just that some of the class of Real Madrid has been lost in all of this. Furthermore, it is a direct result of your president and manager.
 

Beast

The Observer
i would hope he'd apologize, his team's actions were disgusting.

unlike jose pepe marcelo ramos and others, iker actually has class.

and regarding the eye poking - i'm sure you wouldn't be laughing if someone came from behind and poked you in the eye for no reason. but yes, let's all laugh ha ha so funny when jose does it.

if one of our staff members had done it to someone on the madrid bench, mourinho would be crying about the incident for the next 20 years.

If anyone pull that i will laugh from Barca or Real... Jose will moan whatever happens however i never see any manager poke anyone before... it's not like he wanted to make him blind it was unprofessional and childish but i laughed Adil .. it came out of the blue
 

Raed

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If Madrid are to take action against Mourinho or the FA should, shouldn't there be action taken towards Valdes/Villa for laying a hand on Ozil?
 
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If Madrid are to take action against Mourinho or the FA should, shouldn't there be action taken towards Valdes/Villa for laying a hand on Ozil?

Firstly, Madrid taking action against their Manager and #1 representative is very different to Barca taking action against a stupid move by their players. Clubs usually don't punish their own players for acting stupid.

Secondly, Yes, RFEF should punish Mourinho, Marcelo (he should be arrested for assault IMO), and Villa for that dumb slap on Ozil. I imagine Villa and Mourinho (possibly Ozil) will be charged by RFEF but not Marcelo, unfortunately.
 
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