La Furia
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No, because Villa/Valdes were heroes for laying it into that bug eyed freak. They deserve a medal for it.
And yes, I'm being fully objective and not biased at all when I say this.
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No, because Villa/Valdes were heroes for laying it into that bug eyed freak. They deserve a medal for it.
And yes, I'm being fully objective and not biased at all when I say this.
Pepe Silvia
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Probably. Consider the potential injuries that could have occurred though. Marcelo's tackle could have ended Cesc career and that eye gouge could have blinded Tito. That shove by Villa/Valdes was right in front of Ozil in his face and could have caused a bruise at the most.
Chainsaw
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Chainsaw
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Yes. You Madridistas have a problem with 'violent behaviour'?!
barca7788
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villa just did what ozil did and the cunt face couldnt take it.
Ocurrente
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It was funny cause it's very childish and i was "WTF Jose.... lolllll "
it's funny because i can't imagine you saying "WTF Pep.... lolllll"
but it was Mourinho, so it must be ok.
Barcafan 2304
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If i was a Madridista, i would be concerned and certainly would not be laughing at it, ironic or otherwise. This reflects badly on the club and in this era of football, scrutiny and the presentation of a club matters a hell of a lot. Mourinho is damaging Madrid, he is the guy more then any other (with the possible exception of CR) who is most identifiable with the club at this moment in time. Now, i hate Madrid, i'm a Barca fan but despite that, you have to be honest and say RM have a glorious history and have an image of a succesful and glamorous club. I would be concerned if i supported them about the possible damage that Mourinho and some of his player's petulance is having on that reputation.
Birdy
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1- sorry that's me , your posts reflects on you .. some people get along some people don't get along that's how life is we can't change that.. just because your previous replies don't (IMO ) make it worthy for a reply from my side doesn't mean i do that with others .. just some selected members
2- I don't expect you to like me nor i long for that , however you asked me personally and i have the right to reply or not to reply i didn't seek for it..and there is no loser or winner in a debate , a debate represent two sides of an argument , i don't expect to change your opinion after a debate and you should not expect others to change my (or others ) opinion after a debate .. it's not a competition it's a discussion sometimes educational , sometimes fun but there is no win or lose just two different point of views.. people debate and continue their own way unless there is a wager involved based on an outcome
3- there was no insult in my post there or now , branding a question silly is stating a statues of question i never said birdy is silly , i don't have any special treatment from the admins or anyone else , i was warned 2 days ago by Lindsay .. insults are something else completely and it's not you who decide what should be taken care of too long
4- Success is a matter of interpretation ,tactics are not our 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 or pressure , highline /attacking approach is not a subject to debate it's a matter of fact
no one said don't express your opinion but no one is forcing me or others to reply to you , agree with the rest of the post however don't be sad if your previous arguments over here didn't make me interested in replying cause it will be one of those completely opposite of everyone's opinion.. i don't subscribe to debating with those who say anything to just to be different , it's a waste of time (age & experience play a role in that opinion )
5- I don't know ? you birdy ? you would probably say Real played the exact same way like last year, again "PROVEN ME WRONG" ... Put yourself in my shoes would u debate with someone who take a debate as "PROVEN ME WRONG " and "WIN OR LOSE" ...debates are not a competition it's a demonstration of two points of view.. there is no right or wrong unless you are arguing history like you tried before when you said Billardo didn't play 3-5-2 in WC 86... duh
First and less important, i never said anything about Billardo..
NOW:
Your points contradict themselves..
You say that in a debate there is not right/wrong, and at the same time you claim that there is right and wrong regarding tactics.. Uh? What is a debate about tactics then?
4) I have to disagree. Tactics are not facts.. The facts are called statistics.. These and only these are the facts.. All the rest is interpretation based on the facts + arguments to back this up.
If what you say was the case there would be no tactical debate whatsoever..
1) We dont actually get along or not.. We just express opinions.. Its very differenet from actual life.. So, i dont see your point. And this combines well with the next one. Supporting your POV does not mean that you actually associate with me, or (dis)like me. It means that you strengthen your arguments..
So, avoiding certain people actually makes your arguments weaker, because you dont get them tested.. (No one forces you to do.. You can decide for yourself, but this is the result)
2) I did not mean that you win or lose something. The meaning of the debate is actually supporting your POV as well as you can.. During the argumentation, you get their basic elements exposed and judged. They can be weak or strong, but this has to be shown during such a procedure.. POV are just POV. Everyone can judge and form opinion. Changing mind as you say it is difficult to happen (never at once), but what you see normally after a constractive debate with original strong but counter POVs is that usually they tend to reshape themsleves closer to the truth.. During this procedure, the biggest benefit is that it creates critical spur in the observers and not that i will eventually change your mind..
3) i think i am not the only one complaining about your posts..
And what you say is your opinion about insult.. But, what your quote about the book of football sounds to me (and to most people i reckon) as insulting as saying 'F@$ck off' or even more. This is a straight forward personal verbal attack. You are directing it to me personally and not an opinion. What more do you need to say to consider this an insult..
And the sad thing is that it is your usual way of answering to some cules here..
5) You dont know a #$% of me.. REally..
The fact that you have read some of my posts, does not make you anyhow aware of my character or personality
And don't imply again anything about me ('those who say anything to just to be different'), because you don't fucking know a fraction of me.
I wont tolerate that again..
Watch what you write down..
Xavi_78
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You mean like saying poking somebody in the eye from behind is just funny like Gio said, or that Cesc only dived like Iker did?
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mitkoa7x
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Cesc took a huge dive, Marcelo played for the ball, Ozil was insulted in Spanish and he understood it and Mou didnt touch Cesc nor Tito, it was shoped.
Chainsaw
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Makes perfect sense!
XaviFCB
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Come on people. How can you take these two games as representative for the future? The difference in fitness was so obvious, have you ever seen Xavi so unfit in any of the clasicos? No way to state anything conclusive whether Madrid got closer to Barcelona, it's status quo or the opposite happened. Barca started preseason one week later, Copa America players returned one week later, the weather in USA was horrible and they couldn't train, the organization of Barca's preseason was very bad. Actually, the most important part of the preparation for the season starts for Barcelona now. Judge on December not now. That's common sense.
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