Real Madrid (old thread)

[Esteve]

mate it's got nothing to do with being a laporta groupie.

once he rejected man city, the only club willing to sign him for a big fee and pay him ridiculous wages, his value was €0.

it doesn't matter how good he was (he was still very good), he was going to leave on a free at the end of the season. so to fc barcelona his value as an asset was €0.

those are the facts, plain and simple.

now had real not inflated the market, then €46m is too much for ibra. however you DID inflate the market and these deals are not conducted in a bubble. in the context of this summers transfer situation, €46m + eto'o for ibra is a very good deal.

Exactly.

 

[Abaddon]

mate it's got nothing to do with being a laporta groupie.

once he rejected man city, the only club willing to sign him for a big fee and pay him ridiculous wages, his value was €0.

it doesn't matter how good he was (he was still very good), he was going to leave on a free at the end of the season. so to fc barcelona his value as an asset was €0.

those are the facts, plain and simple.

obviously not correct, you would have had him for another season, I'd think about 30 goals would be worth more than 0 euro.

 

[Esteve]

Pep wanted to get rid of Eto'o. Samu knew this & would have been in sulk mode for the last year of his contract before leaving for free. I wouldn't have been counting on another 30 goals anyway. Eto'o rejecting City without any other offers on the table + in the last year of his contract = worth €0.

 

[Metaphysical]

obviously not correct, you would have had him for another season, I'd think about 30 goals would be worth more than 0 euro.

and then he would have left for free, offsetting whatever financial gain he may have helped us get in the season.

keep trying.

 

[Abaddon]

and then he would have left for free, offsetting whatever financial gain he may have helped us get in the season.

keep trying.

how would him leaving for free offset whatever gain he brought you? You don't actually lose money if he leaves for free, do you?

your logic:

value Eto'o this season = 0 euro

value Eto'o next season = 0 euro

in between is a season of x quality and y goals, worth 0 euro. If you'd extend that logic, Eto'o with a 5 year contract would have a 5 x 1 year deal, which in your logic is 5 x 0 euro.

conclusion: Eto'o's (lol) value would be zero regardless of years left on his deal and performance, in your mind.

 

[JALJM]

Eto's value obviously wasn't zero, but i don't know who these mythical clubs are who were offering 20M for him. Part of the reason the "official" valuation is 20M is so as not to insult Eto and also not to insult Zlatan.

I feel if we had held out all summer, some club prolly would come in at the end offering 10-15M, which we would be forced to accept.

 

[John Antonio Bilboa]

Last i heard the deal is off.

 

[Metaphysical]

how would him leaving for free offset whatever gain he brought you? You don't actually lose money if he leaves for free, do you?

come on, wardo, engage the grey matter.

of course we lose money if he leaves for free, because we then have to pay huge money to replace him.

so instead of paying €46m for ibra, we end up paying €70-80m.

huge difference.

 

[John Antonio Bilboa]

thought so

 

[Abaddon]

come on, wardo, engage the grey matter.

of course we lose money if he leaves for free, because we then have to pay huge money to replace him.

so instead of paying €46m for ibra, we end up paying €70-80m.

huge difference.

Why would you have to pay extra for Ibra, value of Eto'o was 0 as you said so many times?

you're really not making a very convincing point Meta.

 

[Beast]

come on, wardo, engage the grey matter.

of course we lose money if he leaves for free, because we then have to pay huge money to replace him.

so instead of paying €46m for ibra, we end up paying €70-80m.

huge difference.

Thank you very much case closed..
u just said what the entire world is saying.. Eto'o value is not equal zero...
and by default it means u paid 70 million for Ibra

 

[John Antonio Bilboa]

That price is still variable.

 

[beef-supreme]

Thank you very much case closed..
u just said what the entire world is saying.. Eto'o value is not equal zero...
and by default it means u paid 70 million for Ibra

Nope Beast I think that Meta was saying Eto'o's value is zero CONDITIONALLY. And by Conditionally, he means the following:

Eto'o's contract will expire in one year. Therefore he will leave for free, with a value of zero.
HOWEVER. Since he still has 1 year left, he IS NOT worth zero. But the key here is:
Yes he is worth a reduced price, and we CAN market him for €5M. BUT while that may bring in lots of bidders, even at 10M, NOBODY will buy him because they can't afford his wages, since Eto'o is a greedy mother... SO. Eto'o is therefore worth ZERO, because nobody wants to buy him, and next year his contract will expire.
ALONG COMES INTER and they trade us Zlatan for Eto'o plus cash. Now if we waited a year, Eto'o would leave for zero (thus confirming his value to be zero) and we would have to buy Zlatan €60+M. INSTEAD we can use Eto'o as a bargaining chip and lower Zlatan's price by 20M, thus giving Eto'o a 20M Euro value based CONDITIONALLY on the transfer dealing with Inter - but any dealing with another club would value him at 0, as they wouldn't purchase him this year, but wait until the next.

You're right in saying that Txiki has been awful as usual this year in terms of financial dealings, but I do think that you're wrong (for once) about Eto'o.

 

[Abaddon]

HOWEVER. Since he still has 1 year left, he IS NOT worth zero.

...


SO. Eto'o is therefore worth ZERO

stop contradicting yourself guys, which is it gonna be? Was he worth zero or wasn't he worth zero.

Furthermore, you're not making any sense. NOBODY wanted to buy Eto'o or pay his wages or whatever, yet Inter accepted him as a bargaining chip worth 20M??? If they accept him as an asset worth 20M in a swap deal they'd be willing to pay 20M for him as well, and they have to pay his wages regardless, which you said nobody was willing to pay. So now suddenly Eto'o is not getting paid cause he was in a part exchange deal?

 

[Beast]

No beef.. u asked Citeh for 35 Mil and they agreed.. u priced out Eto'o in his last year of contract out of the market..
if u put Eto'o for 20 Million plenty of clubs CAN offered him especially that the difference between your price originally and the 20 will make his salary very affordable ..
Nobody wanted to pay you 35 Million for Eto'o.. which is logical but for 20 from Man U to Arsenal to Chelsea..etc all of them would put a bid and can easily afford his wages

stop contradicting yourself guys, which is it gonna be? Was he worth zero or wasn't he worth zero.

Furthermore, you're not making any sense. NOBODY wanted to buy Eto'o or pay his wages or whatever, yet Inter accepted him as a bargaining chip worth 20M??? If they accept him as an asset worth 20M in a swap deal they'd be willing to pay 20M for him as well, and they have to pay his wages regardless, which you said nobody was willing to pay. So now suddenly Eto'o is not getting paid cause he was in a part exchange deal?

They are unbelievable .. they can't come in terms with the fact that their club paid 70 Million for a player , trying to run around the price as much as they can same way Barca management lied about Hleb and when the loan deal was broken they were exposed ..