Real Madrid (old thread)

[diegomessi]

they need to rank something like this

CL 4 pts
liga 3
del rey 2
other 1pt

maybe not that exactly but something to that effect

but ima cule u could care less what other teams win what

 

[Gnegneri]

Yeah very valuable ... that's why Barca playing in it is considered a failure..right ? that's why you lot laughed on Liverpool ... and that's why the winner of the CL play in the club world cup not the UEFA cup ...
and the reason the 3rd place don't try in UEFA cup it's because it means nothing to them

never knew you were a hypocrite so i hope this ^^ post is a joke ..

Are you even reading my posts?

"Winning a European competition like the UEFA Cup is more valuable than failing in the quarters of semi of the CL." is not the same as "The CL is as valuable as the UEFA Cup"

Of course we are laughing with Liverpool cause they were eliminated. But I won't be laughing with Liverpool if they win the UEFA Cup and Barcelona only reaches the quarters or semis of the CL.

 

[diegomessi]

for me there is 3 titles the other ones pish posh (unless of course u win all three then by all means go for the sexta

 

[Beast]

they need to rank something like this

CL 4 pts
liga 3
del rey 2
other 1pt

maybe not that exactly but something to that effect

but ima cule u could care less what other teams win what

Exactly.. and i think UEFA already do similar thing for their ranking ...
although you are so generous on Copa Del Rey ...

Are you even reading my posts?

"Winning a European competition like the UEFA Cup is more valuable than failing in the quarters of semi of the CL." is not the same as "The CL is as valuable as the UEFA Cup"

Of course we are laughing with Liverpool cause they were eliminated. But I won't be laughing with Liverpool if they win the UEFA Cup and Barcelona only reaches the quarters or semis of the CL.

SADLY I'M READING WHAT YOU WROTE
Reaching the Semi is more valuable than winning a UEFA cup... it's an achievement cause you know you are in the top 4 teams in Europe that year..
winning UEFA cup is like winning the second division.. yes you the league but it's a second division league it doesn't put you in the same category as winning the first division..
or winning copa Del Rey .. whoopy ... u qualify for UEFA cup but it doesn't mean you are the second top side in the league or on par with the winner of the league...

would a team like Barca be happy of coming second and play in CL or winning the Cup and play in UEFA cup ? the answer is known

unless of course you are Seville,Getafe,City..etc with no history any cup is a big meal

 

[diegomessi]

o the copa del rey is not that minor its quite a difficult and historical competition

your just bitter

 

[Beast]

Well all domestic cup competitions in Europe are meaningless

u tell Milan-Inter-Juve-Barca-Real-Valencia-United-Gunners-Pool-Chelsea to chose between winning the cup competition or play in the Champions league they all will answer the same thing ..
fuck the cup

It's nice beside the main trophies like u did last season.. but it didn't give any credit to Sir Bobby Robson who won Copa Del Rey , Cup winners cup & the super cup but lost the league and Barca sacked him

 

[diegomessi]

and if your team has ever won the CL ( has history) then you more then likely would rather be in the round of 16 of CL then win uefa cup

bc i cant imagine being excited about uefa cup...

Well all domestic cup competitions in Europe are meaningless

u tell Milan-Inter-Juve-Barca-Real-Valencia-United-Gunners-Pool-Chelsea to chose between winning the cup competition or play in the Champions league they all will answer the same thing ..
fuck the cup

ehh i think the fa cup coppa italia copa del rey is still a pretty big title to win... plus if your able to win that while fighting for other titles it shows your team to have depth and stamina..

 

[Beast]

exactly (For the first part )

Used to be Benji .. used to be... as i said it's a nice thing beside the main ..

 

[diegomessi]

i think the cup is one of those things where if u get knocked out your not to upset (unless its by alcorcon/real union )

but if you win it it is def something to be proud of and celebrate

 

[Gnegneri]

SADLY I'M READING WHAT YOU WROTE
Reaching the Semi is more valuable than winning a UEFA cup... it's an achievement cause you know you are in the top 4 teams in Europe that year..
winning UEFA cup is like winning the second division.. yes you the league but it's a second division league it doesn't put you in the same category as winning the first division..
or winning copa Del Rey .. whoopy ... u qualify for UEFA cup but it doesn't mean you are the second top side in the league or on par with the winner of the league...

would a team like Barca be happy of coming second and play in CL or winning the Cup and play in UEFA cup ? the answer is known

That is not what I was saying.

The question is: would you rather go out in the quarters or the semis of the CL than winning the UEFA Cup.

You are totally dancing around it. It has nothing to do with participating in the CL or UEFA Cup, nor ending at any place.

Just this question: "Would you rather go out in the quarters or the semis of the CL than winning the UEFA Cup."


Of course every club wants to play in the CL rather than the UEFA Cup. That's not at stake here, nor do I deny that. But again, that was not the original thing.

 

[diegomessi]

i would take copa del rey over uefa cup annnyyyyday

and i would take getting outta the group in CL over winning uefa cup also

if i was a fulham bolton aston villa sunderland fan then i would be all happy to be in uefa cup and try and go for it.. but Barça has 3 CL titles..... like i said i would rather get outtta the group or win copa delrey over uefa cup (europa league sorry)

 

[Gnegneri]

And I see Real were twice runner-ups in that Cup Winner's Cup. I guess they said at the final: "fuck this shit, we want to play CL so we are not going to win this final."

 

[diegomessi]

And I see Real were twice runner-ups in that Cup Winner's Cup. I guess they said at the final: "fuck this shit, we want to play CL so we are not going to win this final."

hahahaha thats hilarious

 

[Beast]

That is not what I was saying.

The question is: would you rather go out in the quarters or the semis of the CL than winning the UEFA Cup.

You are totally dancing around it. It has nothing to do with participating in the CL or UEFA Cup, nor ending at any place.

Just this question: "Would you rather go out in the quarters or the semis of the CL than winning the UEFA Cup."


Of course every club wants to play in the CL rather than the UEFA Cup. That's not at stake here, nor do I deny that. But again, that was not the original thing.

And you say i dance around it ?

the main conversation was IF winning the likes of UEFA cup & CWC make weight compared to the CL ...

u'll improve in time

i would take copa del rey over uefa cup annnyyyyday

and i would take getting outta the group in CL over winning uefa cup also

if i was a fulham bolton aston villa sunderland fan then i would be all happy to be in uefa cup and try and go for it.. but Barça has 3 CL titles..... like i said i would rather get outtta the group or win copa delrey over uefa cup (europa league sorry)

agree but i do hold UEFA cup over Copa del Rey knowing how Barca & Real don't give a shit till they reach the semi's

And I see Real were twice runner-ups in that Cup Winner's Cup. I guess they said at the final: "fuck this shit, we want to play CL so we are not going to win this final."

yeah one of few occasions we participated in CWC..our main participation mostly were the CL

 

[Gnegneri]

And you say i dance around it ?

the main conversation was IF winning the likes of UEFA cup & CWC make weight compared to the CL ...

u'll improve in time

Compared to the Champions League that you surely won't win. It's different cause any team would rather play in the CL.

It started with my reply to Abaddon's phrase: "Cup winners cup? We'd rather play in the CL, thank you." While that is true, that doesn't mitigate the value of winning that CWC tournament.

Hence, is winning the CWC (you know, occasionally cause it doesn't happen every year) more than losing in the Champions League at a later stage.

You also played in the CWC but just couldn't win it. But I feel this is the same thing like the Copa Del Rey: "we can't win it so we don't care."

Also things like "would a team like Barca be happy of coming second and play in CL or winning the Cup and play in UEFA cup ? the answer is known" are irrelevant. Of course you want to play CL rather than UEFA cup.