Real Madrid (old thread)

[Beast]

determine between making it the same as winning the CL which it isn't and that's what Ward and me were saying ...
local cup winners are always a step behind and the competition is weaker than the CL ..
it has nothing to do with what you are barking about here and trying to make it a matter of personal preference due to lack of trophies for Real in it but to take you on the ride and answer your immature innuendo here is my reply

i don't think we had time to compete in the CWC (Cup winners cup ) compared to you cause we were busy either winning the league or competing for the Champions league
.. since the rules allowed one team to compete in each competition .. we won 9 CL , u won 4 CWC ..Kudos to you and Horrah for us

 

[Hamzah]

lets do a different analysis. all the trophies necessary for the treble (ie the important ones) are included. do one for all time (real waay ahead) and one for recent years (possibly closer)

 

[Metaphysical]

Cause the Koreans didn't win the competition, they came third.

dingdingding! we have a winner!

this argument is pathetic, really. I only did the all-time analysis because GJ asked me to. I wouldn't have thought we were so close, but it's nice to know that we are. it's so sad to see madridistas try and denigrate the amount of trophies we've won on the grounds that they're "not important" just because they're not as far ahead as they thought they were.

why aren't those trophies important? because real madrid didn't win them?

the great madridista di stefano has said the european cup was much harder to win in his day because it was all KO rounds, so you always had to be on your toes. so, going by that, surely our relentless cup success is a very high mark (not as high as repeat league success, but still) to be respected? well, any madridista secure and confident in his teams achievements would respect it, anyway.

also

beast criticised me for only looking back 20 years as it was a period barca had success in, so apparently I was being bias by doing this.

so surely by putting focus on only the league and CL, areas he knows real have the upper-hand on barca, beast is displaying the same "bias?"

but no, he wouldn't be so hypocritical!

surely not!

alsoalso

no one would rather finish in the semi-finals of a competition than win a cup, even a smaller one. don't be so utterly retarded.

 

[Abaddon]

dingdingding! we have a winner!

this argument is pathetic, really. I only did the all-time analysis because GJ asked me to. I wouldn't have thought we were so close, but it's nice to know that we are. it's so sad to see madridistas try and denigrate the amount of trophies we've won on the grounds that they're "not important" just because they're not as far ahead as they thought they were.

why aren't those trophies important? because real madrid didn't win them?

Not gonna argue semantics with you Meta, but you cannot seriously argue that the copa is of equal importance (or even close for that matter) to winning la liga or the CL? get real.

Hell, you should include the Gampar trophy in your little list, after all it's a "trophy" right?

lets do a different analysis. all the trophies necessary for the treble (ie the important ones) are included. do one for all time (real waay ahead) and one for recent years (possibly closer)

nice idea, but a domestic cup still doesn't have anywhere near the value of the other 2.

 

[Metaphysical]

Not gonna argue semantics with you Meta, but you cannot seriously argue that the copa is of equal importance (or even close for that matter) to winning la liga or the CL? get real.

I don't.

I never, anywhere, said that having 1 less overall trophy put us on equal footing with real in terms of the prestige of our history, merely the scope.

my only points when posting the overall data were:

1. wow we only have 1 less trophy than real. awesome.
2. barca and real are so far ahead in trophy count, and that's why el clasico is such a huge rivalry and why, despite barca's meagre haul of CL trophies, we're still seen in the same echelon as real and milan who have many more "main" trophies like the CL.

then you and beast lost your shit and started putting the achievement down for no reason.

 

[Gnegneri]

Hell, you should include the Gampar trophy in your little list, after all it's a "trophy" right?

Yeah, a club trophy. Not one organised by a FA of a country or a continent.


My god, I thought your Korean argument was the worst you could possibly throw.

 

[FCB_Titi_LB]

It's easy to forget/devalue a (lost) trophee if u loose against Alcorcon

determine between making it the same as winning the CL which it isn't and that's what Ward and me were saying ...
local cup winners are always a step behind and the competition is weaker than the CL ..
it has nothing to do with what you are barking about here and trying to make it a matter of personal preference due to lack of trophies for Real in it but to take you on the ride and answer your immature innuendo here is my reply

i don't think we had time to compete in the CWC (Cup winners cup ) compared to you cause we were busy either winning the league or competing for the Champions league
.. since the rules allowed one team to compete in each competition .. we won 9 CL , u won 4 CWC ..Kudos to you and Horrah for us

Last time i checked Franco bought them.

 

[diegomessi]

without the copa del rey there is no Legendary treble/ or chance at sexta campiooons...

 

[veryfatchocobo]

Oh no... Not like this argument at all...

 

[Beast]

dingdingding! we have a winner!

this argument is pathetic, really. I only did the all-time analysis because GJ asked me to. I wouldn't have thought we were so close, but it's nice to know that we are. it's so sad to see madridistas try and denigrate the amount of trophies we've won on the grounds that they're "not important" just because they're not as far ahead as they thought they were.

why aren't those trophies important? because real madrid didn't win them?

the great madridista di stefano has said the european cup was much harder to win in his day because it was all KO rounds, so you always had to be on your toes. so, going by that, surely our relentless cup success is a very high mark (not as high as repeat league success, but still) to be respected? well, any madridista secure and confident in his teams achievements would respect it, anyway.

also

beast criticised me for only looking back 20 years as it was a period barca had success in, so apparently I was being bias by doing this.

so surely by putting focus on only the league and CL, areas he knows real have the upper-hand on barca, beast is displaying the same "bias?"

but no, he wouldn't be so hypocritical!

surely not!

alsoalso

no one would rather finish in the semi-finals of a competition than win a cup, even a smaller one. don't be so utterly retarded.

We are discussing their value towards the overall haul stopping being a complete retard
neither discussing when it was harder (of course it is harder these days )
If a team won 12 UEFA cup would u consider that a higher achievement than winning 6 or 7 CL ?
you wouldn't play your second line in the copa if it was that important ...

Semi Finals in the CL is by far bigger than winning Europa league against the AIK , Steaua Bucherest..etc of Europe

and yes picking a time frame that suit your argument is indeed school boy attitude .. grow up

Needless to say if my name is Meta and i'm talking about Barca i wouldn't correct the trophy count to Madrid favor .. that's how biased i am

It's easy to forget/devalue a (lost) trophee if u loose against Alcorcon



Last time i checked Franco bought them.

Last time you checked you couldn't read

 

[Abaddon]

Yeah, a club trophy. Not one organised by a FA of a country or a continent.


My god, I thought your Korean argument was the worst you could possibly throw.

I made a sarcastic comment?

djeez.

 

[Gnegneri]

I made a sarcastic comment?

djeez.

What a comment, what abaddone.
OK, then mine is sarcastic too.



BTW beast, you have always been saying that the Copa Del Rey is a twat trophy and is something for Barcelona. How come that Madrid have actually played 4 more finals than Barcelona?

 

[Beast]

It is a twat trophy for us (and for you ) and not only did we play more finals than you we also are the only team in the history of copa del gay to have the B team & the first team playing in the final in the early 80's .. it is still a useless cup for everyone involved par the small teams who see it as a chance to play in Europe

big teams take it seriously in the later stage if they reach it.. it's not just Spain but even EPL big guns play the B team in it till the later stages as well

It doesn't take a genius to figure out why

 

[Gnegneri]

Yes, but it doesn't really make sense to ditch it as a mickey mouse trophy in a trophy haul overview if you actually played more finals than us but won it way less.

 

[Beast]

Yes, but it doesn't really make sense to ditch it as a mickey mouse trophy in a trophy haul overview if you actually played more finals than us but won it way less.

Who said we are ditching it ?? I'm giving it it's real value...a much less value than the Liga,CL

owning a normal Nokia isn't the same value as owning an HTC or I Phone.. all are phones but of different value ..

Anyhow back to RM news.. Juve want Gago.. give it to them