Real Madrid (old thread)

[Metaphysical]

Sure thing, he grew old prematurely but so was his career. He didn't start blossoming at his 22-23nd like a lot of players, he did it a lot faster and played waaaaay over the normal minutes you would get as a 17-19 year old. So his career years just came a few years earlier to the normal prospects. At 32, probably every striker gets old, but he got old badly. Though, when you have a career like that, you should let it rest and accept that your time has come. As you said: he is falling and it won't get any better as the months go buy and the multimillion dollar players keep landing at Madrid.

In a way, I do fear the same for Messi for instance, certainly with his growth hormone shizzle in the past.

it's not the same though.

his early career was held back by injuries. he only played 9, 25 and 36 games respectively in his first 3 seasons. it wasn't 'til 07/08 when he hit 40. and then last season he played 50 for the first time (51 to be exact)

compare that to raul who, apart from 30 apps in his debut season, was consistently appearing mid-to-late 40's or early 50's until 04/05. he was a main part of the real madrid teams and that plus the poor training for many years of the galactico era have really hurt him, longevity-wise. he'd already be finished were it not for capello.

I firmly believe the speed of raul's decline is part of why pep has been managing bojan so carefully. we don't want him to go the same way and burdening a teenager with the physical and mental rigours of being a first-teamer when you don't have to is just risky.

 

[Gnegneri]

it's not the same though.

his early career was held back by injuries. he only played 9, 25 and 36 games respectively in his first 3 seasons. it wasn't 'til 07/08 when he hit 40. and then last season he played 50 for the first time (51 to be exact)

compare that to raul who, apart from 30 apps in his debut season, was consistently appearing mid-to-late 40's or early 50's until 04/05. he was a main part of the real madrid teams and that plus the poor training for many years of the galactico era have really hurt him, longevity-wise. he'd already be finished were it not for capello.

I firmly believe the speed of raul's decline is part of why pep has been managing bojan so carefully. we don't want him to go the same way and burdening a teenager with the physical and mental rigours of being a first-teamer when you don't have to is just risky.

Sure though I sitll fear it very much. Certainly when combined with that growth hormone hassle. I mean, I don't think that his body was really made for those top performances. (this could be a very wrong logic but I do know you kno what I am wanting to say)

Hey, he could very well lean towards a Giggs-finish rather than a Raul one. But until that happens, I will definitely fear the Raul-einding.

 

[Gnegneri]

Oh yeah; it will be such a sad day when Guti leaves the capital:


The way he looks and talks and looks while he talks or questions being asked. Brilliant.

 

[Beast]

Another meeting will be scheduled next week to close the signing of Canales , fee for Racing is 10 Million Euro and the kid will stay next season with Racing

 

[beef-supreme]

Another meeting will be scheduled next week to close the signing of Canales , fee for Racing is 10 Million Euro and the kid will stay next season with Racing

a) I hate you
b) You never know, you might just destroy his career.

Signing a defender at a young age and giving them the Real Madrid treatment may well work out, like Garay for e.g., because you guys are usually in need of defenders. But it is quite different to sign an attacking player at a super young age, because you have plenty of them already, and besides he's just Spanish... No galactico.

 

[Beast]

a) I hate you
b) You never know, you might just destroy his career.

Signing a defender at a young age and giving them the Real Madrid treatment may well work out, like Garay for e.g., because you guys are usually in need of defenders. But it is quite different to sign an attacking player at a super young age, because you have plenty of them already, and besides he's just Spanish... No galactico.

Valdano signaled early on the intention of adding more Spanish players (which is normal considering who we are and where Spain is ) .

you have to consider as well that the team has one LM which is Marcelo and next summer the 6 members of the squad Guti,Raul,Gago ,Dudek,Metzelder & Ruud are out .

I don't see VDV continuing forever and by the time Canales move to Real you will have Kaka @ the age of 29 and VDV is almost the same it will be the perfect time for the kid to do his trade in Real he will also be 19/20 .

I'm sorry if signing him disappointed many cule's who love the guy but you are not so innocent yourselves , the likes of Maxi,Saviola,Ezquerro..etc are there to be seen
the bottom line is quality prevails even against all odds and big names (see Higuain over Benzema )

 

[Gnegneri]

Lol? 10 mil for that kid? I mean, no doubt he can play some footy but 10 mil? For someone who hasn't even played 10 hours in la liga over two seasons?

Real is so desperately in need for young Spanish talent that their academy doesn't provide. 10 million.



And just to be sure: he could very well be the real deal. But so much money for someone who wasn't realy played yet? What a gamble.

 

[Beast]

Lol? 10 mil for that kid? I mean, no doubt he can play some footy but 10 mil? For someone who hasn't even played 10 hours in la liga over two seasons?

Real is so desperately in need for young Spanish talent that their academy doesn't provide. 10 million.



And just to be sure: he could very well be the real deal. But so much money for someone who wasn't realy played yet? What a gamble.

nice try if it wasn't for the fact that Depor owning 50 % of his registration make your post way too ridiculous and coming after 25 Million Euro Shaggy dog is hilarious
I guess the last time we paid that much for an unknown worked like wonders , his name is Higuain
but nice try nevertheless

 

[House of Flies]

this is a good deal for them, gneg but real dont know how to deal with youngsters so in my humble opinion, they just ruined another promising player.

 

[Cule Angles]

nice try if it wasn't for the fact that Depor owning 50 % of his registration make your post way too ridiculous and coming after 25 Million Euro Shaggy dog is hilarious
I guess the last time we paid that much for an unknown worked like wonders , his name is Higuain
but nice try nevertheless

25m shaggy dog means that culés know an excessive transfer fee when we see one.

 

[Beast]

Real Madrid will apply for De La Red deregistration from the LFP , based on Marca report the disability assessment team will evaluate De La Red medical record and if proven he is disabled from the ability to play football his big salary will be shrunk to 1500 Euro a month .
according to the report De La Red intends to fight the decision as if prevent him from playing football again in the LFP competition , the young midfielder hope to be able to play football again and till now there isn't a valid explanation for his illness .

De La Red heart condition remain a mystery unsolved by the 100 doctors who checked his case , the captains constantly send support message to Ruben and aren't happy with the situation .

:sad:

 

[Beast]

25m shaggy dog means that culés know an excessive transfer fee when we see one.

No it means pot-kettle - black

10 Million Euro is Canales release clause which goes 5 Million for Racing & 5 Million for Depor a very reasonable price for the hottest player in the Spanish liga

 

[Lemmi]

Was it just one collapse with Ruben? Has anything been found?

 

[Lemmi]

No it means pot-kettle - black

10 Million Euro is Canales release clause which goes 5 Million for Racing & 5 Million for Depor a very reasonable price for the hottest player in the Spanish liga

not a bad price, but to call him the hottest after 2 goals is getting very carried away

 

[Gnegneri]

See, why does Chygrynskiy have to come into play? He played more than 10 hours, he even won the UEFA Cup being one of the better performers and in the supercup pretty much neutralised a lot of our attack. If you then want that particular from a team that isn't pleased with money ...... yeah. Did I compare the kid to the overpaying of Benzema? No, so stop reacting like a child sometimes. Oh, and not that I condone the transfer fee of Chygrynskiy by the way.

I couldn't give a rat's ass who is having the rights (as you don't seem to care where Chygrynskiy comes from) and why you have to pay 10 million to get him. I do really want to know why you want to pay that 10 mil for him.

Chygrynskiy had at least something to show in the previous years, just like Benzema to a certain extent. They played a lot with their team and they accomplished something over the period of at least a season. You know, like all the other big money transfers.

This Canalas guy plays some minutes and scores two beautiful goals versus Sevilla and against Espanyol (those are the ones I have seen live) with Racing. The press is all over him (just like what happened with Muniain) and it seems he is FREE AGENT. But why 10 mil? You don't think that is a ridiculous amount of money for the things he has shown? Why is he the hottest? Cause La Liga press is jacking off on him?

And again, because I see Abandon is lurking in this thread, this could very well be a nasty good footballer. But 10 million is a helluva lot of money for such a youngster, regardless where hsi rights are. Real is the one that has to pay.