Real Madrid (old thread)

[barcetia]

I did not say he coaches teams FOR the money...I said that he coaches teams WITH money...teams that are dominant or almost there...

e.g.he went to Chelsea cos he knew that Abrahmovic would splash insane amounts of money...he went to Inter cos there was no other big club for him atm,and their Italian rivals as good as dead.Now he is leaving Inter..cos he knows that it will be absolutely impossible to repeat even a fraction of this season's fortunate success...and goes to Real Madrid who spent like no other,already have world-class players and have only one serious(albeit mighty)domestic opponent.If he were THAT brilliant as most seem to believe then his magic touch,his genius would have worked with teams like Udinese,Aston Villa or Villareal..maybe not with trebles...but it would have been more than observable...but as I said,Mourinho is a slimy opportunist...

And porto? How do you explain that?
Lol, do you think Pep would have succeeded at Udinese?
Mourinho is a good tactician. Look at the first match against Barca, his tactics were spot on. The second match however, was replicated from Hiddink which shows that he adjusts himself to the opposition if he's the under-dog(another sign from a master tactician).
He's slightly overrated though.

Pellegrini did wonders with Villareal. One could think that he would do even more miracles with Real. Did he now?

 

[Beast]

seriously?

you don't rate him?

I think he'd be a brilliant signing for you.

not as dynamic in attack as evra, but an incredibly solid LB whose only problem may be the language barrier.

and is that scenario reial signing lots of PL players?

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No the scenario has nothing to do with EPL players .. i rate Ashely but i don't subscribe to buying 29 year old players who are on the verge of being old and lose form
how many years can Ashley keep bombing forward like this ? 2-3 ? i'd rather buy a 24/25 year old LB who can give us 5 years of service at least

 

[Abaddon]

stop arguing with ward, it's a waste of time.

he's a contrary twat and a wind-up merchant.

Ouch man... I've always deeply respect your football opinions, so that really hurts. (no sarcasm, honestly)

 

[silky_soccer]

I did not say he coaches teams FOR the money...I said that he coaches teams WITH money...teams that are dominant or almost there...

e.g.he went to Chelsea cos he knew that Abrahmovic would splash insane amounts of money...he went to Inter cos there was no other big club for him atm,and their Italian rivals as good as dead.Now he is leaving Inter..cos he knows that it will be absolutely impossible to repeat even a fraction of this season's fortunate success...and goes to Real Madrid who spent like no other,already have world-class players and have only one serious(albeit mighty)domestic opponent.If he were THAT brilliant as most seem to believe then his magic touch,his genius would have worked with teams like Udinese,Aston Villa or Villareal..maybe not with trebles...but it would have been more than observable...but as I said,Mourinho is a slimy opportunist...

So peps success isnt good as he has only done it with Barca and not with Valladolid?

Mou took Porto from being a nothing side in Europe, not even the Biggest in Portugal, won the League 2x, Portuguese cup 1x, Europa Leaguex1 and CLx1
if you cant see that he is a good manager i fear for you, even if his style makes me want to cut out my eyes sometimes, you gotta respect his achievements on the pitch.

Off the pitch hes a C**T

Edit: Damn You Tiam, beat me to it.

 

[Abaddon]

nonono, it didn't touch his hand. it touched right under the hand. there was no contact.

lol the footage is there for everyone to see, it clearly touched his hand. Now you can debate whether it was enough to rule out that goal or not, but it did touch the hand.

 

[FCB_Titi_LB]

poor Christiano :'( not 1 single trophy this season and in the shadow of Messi.

 

[dalitis8]

And porto? How do you explain that?
Lol, do you think Pep would have succeeded at Udinese?
Mourinho is a good tactician. Look at the first match against Barca, his tactics were spot on. The second match however, was replicated from Hiddink which shows that he adjusts himself to the opposition if he's the under-dog(another sign from a master tactician).
He's slightly overrated though.

Pellegrini did wonders with Villareal. One could think that he would do even more miracles with Real. Did he now?

When did you hear me say that Pep is a tactician?

Porto winning the CL was in a year of many surprises with all the favourites dropping like flies..They also had an offside goal allowed against Man U.But surely he did well with them...that I do not deny.I never said he is a an average manager....I am only saying that he is handsomely overrated thanks to his theatric style and good-looks,stuff on which the media thrive....He is surely a strong personality and a motivator...as for his tactics...he plays low-risk football,nothing revolutionary,innovative or amazing.You say he adjusts his tactics...that is the hallmark of great opportunists(so that adjective is not all negative)

 

[Beast]

I did not say he coaches teams FOR the money...I said that he coaches teams WITH money...teams that are dominant or almost there...

e.g.he went to Chelsea cos he knew that Abrahmovic would splash insane amounts of money...he went to Inter cos there was no other big club for him atm,and their Italian rivals as good as dead.Now he is leaving Inter..cos he knows that it will be absolutely impossible to repeat even a fraction of this season's fortunate success...and goes to Real Madrid who spent like no other,already have world-class players and have only one serious(albeit mighty)domestic opponent.If he were THAT brilliant as most seem to believe then his magic touch,his genius would have worked with teams like Udinese,Aston Villa or Villareal..maybe not with trebles...but it would have been more than observable...but as I said,Mourinho is a slimy opportunist...

That's stupid ..

Porto didn't get a day in the sun since the late 80's when they beat B Munich .. he took them to the CL glory .. how many sides outside the big 3 leagues managed that ? in the last 10 years ?
he introduced a generation of footballers no one heard about before , Deco , Benny Mac , Carvalho..etc
Chelsea never won the EPL before he arrived since the 50's if money was everything why didn't City win it ? or Real won the CL & liga ? and since he left they only came close to this feature this season
he was hired to manage Inter for one reason and one reason alone.. win the CL .. the trophy Inter couldn't win since the 60's and obsession for Moratti to do what his father did , Moratti spent 1 Billion Euro since he bought the club and couldn't do it .. ask anyone about Inter reputation in Europe he would tell you chokers
we may not like his football but he is a damn good manager
and please stop being a hypocrite .. that mean Pep isn't a good manager cause he didn't work with Villarreal , Aston Villa but coached a team with the best player in the world with 380 Million budget ..

 

[Abaddon]

Porto winning the CL was in a year of many surprises with all the favourites dropping like flies..They also had an offside goal allowed against Man U.But surely he did well with them...that I do not deny.I never said he is a an average manager....I am only saying that he is handsomely overrated thanks to his theatric style and good-looks,stuff on which the media thrive....He is surely a strong personality and a motivator...as for his tactics...he plays low-risk football,nothing revolutionary,innovative or amazing.You say he adjusts his tactics...that is the hallmark of great opportunists(so that adjective is not all negative)

The football he played with Porto was as good as any team played, to say anything else is revisionist history.

 

[barcetia]

When did you hear me say that Pep is a tactician?

Porto winning the CL was in a year of many surprises with all the favourites dropping like flies..They also had an offside goal allowed against Man U.But surely he did well with them...that I do not deny.I never said he is a an average manager....I am only saying that he is handsomely overrated thanks to his theatric style and good-looks,stuff on which the media thrive....He is surely a strong personality and a motivator...as for his tactics...he plays low-risk football,nothing revolutionary,innovative or amazing.You say he adjusts his tactics...that is the hallmark of great opportunists(so that adjective is not all negative)

so you're saying that Pep isen't a tactician? what is he then? a clown in a box?

you never directly said that he was an average manager, but you wrote in a way that made it seem like you think he is. which you obviously think.

 

[dalitis8]

So peps success isnt good as he has only done it with Barca and not with Valladolid?

Mou took Porto from being a nothing side in Europe, not even the Biggest in Portugal, won the League 2x, Portuguese cup 1x, Europa Leaguex1 and CLx1
if you cant see that he is a good manager i fear for you, even if his style makes me want to cut out my eyes sometimes, you gotta respect his achievements on the pitch.

Off the pitch hes a C**T

Edit: Damn You Tiam, beat me to it.

I don;t know about the details and intricancies of Portuegese football(do you?)

Chelsea were the richest team in England when he won there.Same with Inter in Italy.

During the last summer,Inter were the great beneficiaries...getting Lucio from Bayern,Wesley from Real and Eto'o plus 49m(!!!!!!!!!!!)from Barca....and it showed.Plus he got lucky with some ref decisions(as most of us are pointing out in this forum) Sure I do not deny,that he IS a good coach and tactician,but all I am saying is that he is overhyped by the media...

As for Pep,I think he is a brilliant friendly motivator...who had the amazingly good fortune of having Iniesta,Messi,Xavi,Alves,Henry,Eto'o et al in ABSOLUTELY ASTONISHING form....and made history thanks to them in 08/09....as for his transfer decisions....well....Biblical disaster does not begin to fathom it...

so you're saying that Pep isen't a tactician? what is he then? a clown in a box?

you never directly said that he was an average manager, but you wrote in a way that made it seem like you think he is. which you obviously think.

What kind of tactician is he?We play the same thing over and over....and that is why we all like Barca...he only does minor tweaks..like switching Messi's role...that's it...

The football he played with Porto was as good as any team played, to say anything else is revisionist history.

Maybe you are right as I cannot argue against that....I have no reliable memories of that Porto side....

 

[barcetia]

you do realize he reinstated the whole thing? or were you not here? sure we've played the similar thing but not exactly this type. the 4-2-3-1? then bringing in 4-3-3 agian? it would take a real tactician to realize that such a move has to be taken?
those minor "tweaks" are fatal to other teams.

 

[silky_soccer]

No i dont know details of portuguese, but any Idiot who happened to watch football would realise that what he did with Porto was very special.

Pep Just fortunate? GOD SAKE worst comment of the year.

Dani Alves, Pedro, Busquets, Pique, Maxwell.

There is 5 OUTSTANDING signings/Promotions.

Add Villa and maybe Cesc to that, yup his transfers aree Awful.

 

[gvt2000]

Am i the only one who thinks it was completely tasteless of mourinho to announce his departure right after the final, with Pelegrini still being Real madrid coach? I mean, instead of celebrating with the interistas back in Milan, he stayed in madrid to negotiate his contract with madrid.

 

[silky_soccer]

you do realize he reinstated the whole thing? or were you not here? sure we've played the similar thing but not exactly this type. the 4-2-3-1? then bringing in 4-3-3 agian? it would take a real tactician to realize that such a move has to be taken?
those minor "tweaks" are fatal to other teams.

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