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Beast

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No it's not it's confidence, Gio. It would be arrogant to say that if we were a shit club because that would be speaking beyond our capacity. We have beat literally everybody so our losses are directly tied to our own failures not more talented clubs taking us down.

You are talking about the greatest midfield, Zamora & Mr. Magician tying Ronaldo's record, six trophies in a single season... not some run-of-the-mill so-so champions. We have the right to speak proudly and stake claim to that statement "The only thing that can stop Barca is Barca".

There is no confidence in your words Pepe, it's pure arrogance and disrespect to football
the only thing that can stop Barca is a better tactical team , U played Rubin Kazan twice and couldn't buy a win ffs
yes you won 6 trophies but last year not this year .. a feature Inter is almost there is doing (they already won the major ones ) .. so are they run of the mill so-so team ?

English is not my first language but what you are demonstrating is arrogance , some humility will do you good
 

silky_soccer

Fireman Sam
There is no confidence in your words Pepe, it's pure arrogance and disrespect to football
the only thing that can stop Barca is a better tactical team , U played Rubin Kazan twice and couldn't buy a win ffs
yes you won 6 trophies but last year not this year .. a feature Inter is almost there is doing (they already won the major ones ) .. so are they run of the mill so-so team ?

English is not my first language but what you are demonstrating is arrogance , some humility will do you good

Have to disagree with Kazan thing, it depends on performance, individual results dont mean shit. You wen out of the Copa to who again? but that didnt mean they are the better side, overall our season was a success two games dont change that, But Pepe, you do sound a bit arrogant.
 

Beast

The Observer
Have to disagree with Kazan thing, it depends on performance, individual results dont mean shit. You wen out of the Copa to who again? but that didnt mean they are the better side, overall our season was a success two games dont change that, But Pepe, you do sound a bit arrogant.

I mentioned Kazan to reply to his "Barca can only stop Barca".. well no Kazan an organized tactical team managed that feature twice in a row without the best midfield , best player in the world..etc ..

and a bit arrogant is an understatement of the year
 

ricknattery

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And Jose is which club manager now ? and moving to which club ?
it was all about Mourinho to Real Madrid.. it felt like we won the CL ;) ..

And that's what not winning anything after 2 years and having many millions less in the budget can do to you
 

silky_soccer

Fireman Sam
I mentioned Kazan to reply to his "Barca can only stop Barca".. well no Kazan an organized tactical team managed that feature twice in a row without the best midfield , best player in the world..etc ..

and a bit arrogant is an understatement of the year

Fair enough, i misunderstood..apologies Gio.
 

Armando929

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I would like to be the first to thank Real Madrid and Florentino Perez in particular for basically handing next seasons La Liga trophy into Barcelona's hands. The signing of Jose is a massive, massive own goal and made for all the wrong reasons. As you will all know, it is dangerous to make a decision, especially an important decision, without a clear head. You should always try and be objective and leave emotions to one side. You should never make decisions in the heat of the moment which is exactly what Perez has done. It starts off right back when he first decided to take another shot at the presidency, an election with one candidate, and listens to his friends and takes their advice. Last time around I screwed up because my ego clouded my judgment. This time I am going to take a step back and let my man Valdano take the football decisions and I shall do what I am good at, make shady deals and turn a profit regardless of any thought to ethics. Here Valdano enters the frame, chooses Pellegrini for the role of coach (much to the dismay to Florentino, who wanted Wenger) and they set about trying to purchase the best talent that is greedy enough to take the bait. To be fair, Valdano does a great job and for about €300 million in comes, CRgay, Javi Alonso, Kakation and the rest of the mercs.

Pellegrini does a great job also but fails to beat Barca on two occasions. Valdano manages to convince Perez to keep faith with Pellegrini, even after the Copa defeat but after the second trouncing by Barca at the Bernabeu his fate was sealed. Perez now has doubts that he should have listened to Valdano so much and the little devil on his shoulder starts to chip away and the ego starts to return.

Then, and for me this is the pivotal moment, Barca play Inter and Perez can see the hatred we have for Jose, but more importantly, he see's how much Jose can get under our skin with actually not having to say anything. He has done more than enough to fill another life time in the past! Watching Jose run up and down the touchline a Camp Nou was too much for Perez and he would have called him as soon as he got to his office, now Valdano is just another voice spewing out white noise. Perez has the bit between his teeth and he is making decisions, Valdano will not be carrying on with HIS project any further.

Why is it such a bad decision? By bringing Jose to Castle Grey-Skull, Perez has lost the only voice of sanity in his entourage. With Valdano gone that ego will run unchecked and now there will be no go between the board and the coach. Jose will be promised the world in terms of control but it will never happen, Perez is back and as soon as the crowd start to turn on Jose (and they will especially as Barca will keep on winning) he will start calling the shots and picking the team like the good old days. Will Jose accept that? No chance. Fireworks all round.

The other and main reason for me that Madrid have handed us the title is that I believe that the only team that can stop Barca is Barca themselves. That is why all great team's cycles come to an end. It is very rarely because one of their opponents suddenly become brilliant overnight. No. It is because they lose their way, their motivation, their dynamic as a group. My fear for next season was motivation. Madrid could not have given us more of a reason to be fired up than signing Jose. For that I thank you with all my heart. Next season we will do the double and it will all be down to one man.

Thank you Mr. Perez.

Mourinho is Florentino's last bullet, we could say. His last means to try and beat Barcelona because he couldn't do it after just completing what is the most expensive transfer season in the history of football.

It seems to me that Florentino is what will end up burying Madrid once again. All these signings, all this ambition, and heat of the moment decisions is what will take the club down.

Mourinho may well unite the team and get them playing together, but Capello won them La Liga back in 2007 and that wasn't good enough because of the lack of entertaining football.

I don't see it lasting. And I think The Special One is a great manager. One of the best. He just knows how to coach. But within Real Madrid. From the front office to the fans, to the team there's too much of a lack of unity I feel. Too many egos. And the biggest one of them all is Florentino.

Thats gonna be tough.
 

Metaphysical

Bomb Dropper
beast, I don't want to piss on your chips or get involved in this arrogance debate, but as a point of clarification the only thing that stopped barca vs. kazan at camp nou was rafael marquez. both their goals came from out-of-nowhere errors from him.

Mourinho to Real Madrid is your classic, "the woman of my dreams wants nothing to do with me, so I'm going to date the person she hates the most to get back at her!"

that's exactly what this is.

I mean his son is a catalan!

he'd have been manager of barca but the CL has consistently drawn him against us. and he was always managing inferior sides, so the only way to beat us was to make it into a war, which meant he would be a villain to us.

but he's a winner, so he'll just get on with it.

I'm sure it'll be one of his few regrets at the end of his managerial career though.
 
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