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Metaphysical

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mourinho does indeed want to be coach of united. he's constantly been slobbering with praise for fergie, and when he went there with inter he was practically having a wank while doing his traditional pre-match stadium observation. and despite reservations about his football I think united will take him the second fergie leaves. I mean the power vacuum that retirement will create will be ENORMOUS and there's no other manager in the world with big enough balls and a big enough ego to fill that vacuum in its entirety.

his dream job is obviously barca, though. but fate has conspired to take that from him.
 
Poor_Sunyol

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The problem with the other Jose is that when he was at Porto, he had to create a group with a siege mentality as they hadn't won anything for years and they were going to be huge under dogs in Europe. At Chelski he replaced the popular Ranieri and took on a club that was not only hated historically by a large part of Britain but also a team with the first billionaire owner, who just wanted to buy a team and totally changed the transfer market forever. The whole of the UK wanted Chelski to fail and the other Jose again created a siege mentality where 'nobody likes us but we don't care' attitude helped them win the league.

His problem is when he goes to a big club with a lot of history and therefore comparisions to past managers, teams and players are inevitable, like Inter. He struggled to win the fans over and get the respect from the country because they are a successful club nationally and expect to win leagues and other silverware. He wasn't hailed as a great messiah and apart from right at the end with the CL win he hadn't done anything that managers before him had already done. He hated that, he hates not being totally adored and worshipped.

At Madrid I fear that the same thing is likely to happen. Madrid are always going to be in with a chance of winning La Liga. Look at this year, you were only 4 points adrift with 95 and scored over 100 goals. Whatever he does in La Liga will be fine, it will be more about how he goes about it and what identity he gives the team. Madrid want to be thought of in the same light as Barca are at the moment by the world for playing the football we do. As you always tell us, and you are correct, the main objective will be the 10th CL title and it will be that way until you achieve it. Winning that like Inter did and in the same style will be enough to please the board and the fans for a moment but it will not satisfy them and I can see them parting company very quickly after that.

Basically the other Jose needs a smaller club with less history where he can be the idol and he won't get that at Madrid, where managers come and go every two minutes.
 
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Metaphysical

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thanks for the information Meta .. didn't know that word before :D
my wife is a sensationalist
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it's not always exaggeration, but just whenever you use a type of language designed to shock, thrill and/or be exciting. newspapers use it A LOT coz it gets attention. that headline marca ran about reial getting the champions league by signing mourinho was very sensationalist, for example. :D

and hahaha, yeah most wives are.
 
Beast

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Poor_Sunyol said:
The problem with the other Jose is that when he was at Porto, he had to create a group with a siege mentality as they hadn't won anything for years and they were going to be huge under dogs in Europe. At Chelski he replaced the popular Ranieri and took on a club that was not only hated historically by a large part of Britain but also a team with the first billionaire owner, who just wanted to buy a team and totally changed the transfer market forever. The whole of the UK wanted Chelski to fail and the other Jose again created a siege mentality where 'nobody likes us but we don't care' attitude helped them win the league.

His problem is when he goes to a big club with a lot of history and therefore comparisions to past managers, teams and players are inevitable, like Inter. He struggled to win the fans over and get the respect from the country because they are a successful club nationally and expect to win leagues and other silverware. He wasn't hailed as a great messiah and apart from right at the end with the CL win he hadn't done anything that managers before him had already done. He hated that, he hates not being totally adored and worshipped.

At Madrid I fear that the same thing is likely to happen. Madrid are always going to be in with a chance of winning La Liga. Look at this year, you were only 4 points adrift with 95 and scored over 100 goals. Whatever he does in La Liga will be fine, it will be more about how he goes about it and what identity he gives the team. Madrid want to be thought of in the same light as Barca are at the moment by the world for playing the football we do. As you always tell us, and you are correct, the main objective will be the 10th CL title and it will be that way until you achieve it. Winning that like Inter did and in the same style will be enough to please the board and the fans for a moment but it will not satisfy them and I can see them parting company very quickly after that.

Basically the other Jose needs a smaller club with less history where he can be the idol and he won't get that at Madrid, where managers come and go every two minutes.
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very nice insight Alex ..

Metaphysical said:
mourinho does indeed want to be coach of united. he's constantly been slobbering with praise for fergie, and when he went there with inter he was practically having a wank while doing his traditional pre-match stadium observation. and despite reservations about his football I think united will take him the second fergie leaves. I mean the power vacuum that retirement will create will be ENORMOUS and there's no other manager in the world with big enough balls and a big enough ego to fill that vacuum in its entirety.

his dream job is obviously barca, though. but fate has conspired to take that from him.
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That was last year .. hard to tell if it was part for Inter vs United mind games routine or what .. he was surely offering his service and he & SAF have great respect for each other
Metaphysical said:
it's not always exaggeration, but just whenever you use a type of language designed to shock, thrill and/or be exciting. newspapers use it A LOT coz it gets attention. that headline marca ran about reial getting the champions league by signing mourinho was very sensationalist, for example. :D

and hahaha, yeah most wives are.
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Yeah got that and i used it on Ed too :D

The board will announce today the dismissal of Pellegrini & the hiring of Mourinho ..

on a side note De Rossi welcomed Real Interest if the club wants the money

Lass have a genetic disease which affect black players some sort of Anemia :(
 
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Poor_Sunyol

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Sickle cell anemia. The bastard with that is you never know how long it will take to cure and it can come back anytime. In all seriousness his career may be over.
 
beef-supreme

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Poor_Sunyol said:
Sickle cell anemia. The bastard with that is you never know how long it will take to cure and it can come back anytime. In all seriousness his career may be over.
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From my Biology studies back in school, i learnt that you can't cure sickle cell anemia. It is a lifelong genetic disorder.
It happens to Africans as their bodies' genetic, evolutionary response to the threat of Malaria. Lass will never contract malaria, which is a plus side. However, it will never "go away" or "come back" - his blood cells will always be shaped in an uneven, sickle-like manner.
I doubt his career will be over because of this, so many people have it, you just have to manage it very carefully and maintain your blood thinness, however as long as he is able to restrict the occurrences of complications - which is possible through intake of certain minerals and medicines - he should be fine...

Coincidentally my Bio teacher had sickle cell anemia, but she also had the double threat of a heart problem which meant that when her heart skipped a couple of beats she would faint! That's a more serious case though and it isn't a situation where she only had sickle cell anemia.
 
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