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Beast

The Observer
very wishful thinking..

unless man city come in i will value the players more like:

Gago- 8-10ME
VDV- 12-15ME
Diarra- 10-13ME

Really hope the Catalan press don't adopt Madriditis this summer. Really don't give a fuck what you do because every summer you build a team of invincibles and it's getting a bit dull watching them flop in the CL. Haha, I kid. It will never get old. I will suck off a pensioner if the winner of next year's CL isn't Barca, Madrizz or Chelski.

United for VDV , City for Gago & VDV.. already Gago offer last winter was 18 Mil ..

anyhow nice article on Mourinho /Real sums up the conversation


Mourinho and Madrid: A match made in heaven?


Brash, arrogant, cocky and with such an impressive record that success almost seems an entitlement. It is a description that encapsulates the personality that is Jose Mourinho, and the institution that is Real Madrid. Wolfsburg's former manager Wolfgang Wolf may disagree, but has there ever been a more obvious case of a coach and club being made for each other?

The consummation of the most public of courtships has resulted in Mourinho arriving at what must be considered his spiritual home, despite his service at Barcelona and professed love for both Chelsea and Inter Milan. Manuel Pellegrini has been cast aside, another victim of the ruthless policy which Florentino Perez adopts towards his coaching staff.

The Chilean has been treated poorly - with Marca even billing a recent interview with Mourinho as 'his first as Real Madrid coach' despite Pellegrini still being in place at the time - but Real do not do niceties, as a string of former employees would testify. Perfection is the demand, and with a disappointing Champions League exit to Lyon and a fatal home defeat to Barcelona in the league, he failed to deliver.

Now Madrid have a coach that they believe fits their profile (a galactico, according to Marca), and Mourinho has a new home in which to house his substantial ego. As Perez said in his press conference on Thursday: "This club always tries to have the best in every position and job. He is one of the best coaches in the world, if not the best, and this Real Madrid, which strives to achieve excellence, couldn't miss out on such an opportunity. Excellence is our goal. We want to win and be leaders." The Special Club, as it were.

The original Special One has been gushing in his praise as well, stating in the aftermath of Inter's Champions League triumph: "If you don't coach Real Madrid then you always have a gap in your career."

Clearly this is a club and a man both wrapped up in their own greatness and self-importance - and not without good reason. Real Madrid are the most successful club in the history of the European Cup and if Mourinho brings a tenth triumph to the club, he will become the first man to coach three different teams to the pinnacle of the European club game.

In his demands for excellence, formidable record and ultra-confident air, Mourinho seems a natural bedfellow for Real. But while the personalities are a perfect match, scratch beneath the surface and there are issues which could result in relationship problems further down the line.

Chief amongst them is Mourinho's style of football. Rafa Benitez, a former coach of the Real youth and reserve sides, said as much recently. In a dig at his former rival in the Premier League, the Liverpool manager said: "I know Mourinho has dreamed a lot about coaching Real Madrid but I do not know if he is the right person to train them."

His conservative nature reportedly frustrated Roman Abramovich at Chelsea - perhaps fittingly for a man who introduced the phrase "parking the bus" to the English football lexicon - and Inter could hardly have claimed to have dazzled their way to their Treble triumph this season.

Real fans, regaled from youth with tales of Puskas and Di Stefano and with the first, glorious, galactico side still fresh in the memory, will demand something more. Something ambitious, something attacking. This craving will not be easy for Mourinho to satisfy, though one suspects that if he can repeat the trick of nullifying Lionel Messi - as he did across two legs in the Champions League semi-final this year - Real supporters may grow to reluctantly appreciate the merits of substance over style.

Certainly some seem sceptical at present. Marca's online poll asks if the club will return to winning ways under Mourinho. At last count, just 44.9% had voted Si.

Pressure may come from within the club, too. After all, it was Real's current general manager, Jorge Valdano, who produced one of the finest quotes of recent years when responding to a Champions League semi-final between Mourinho's Chelsea and Benitez's Liverpool in 2007.

"Football is made up of subjective feeling, of suggestion - and, in that, Anfield is unbeatable," Valdano said. "Put a s**t hanging from a stick in the middle of this passionate, crazy stadium and there are people who will tell you it's a work of art. It's not: it's a s**t hanging from a stick. Chelsea and Liverpool are the clearest, most exaggerated example of the way football is going: very intense, very collective, very tactical, very physical, and very direct. But, a short pass? Noooo. A feint? Noooo. A change of pace? Noooo. A one-two? A nutmeg? A backheel? Don't be ridiculous. None of that."

In a charm offensive with Madrid-based newspaper AS on Thursday, Mourinho suggested that he will employ a brand of football that will better appeal to the aesthetic values of his new colleague, and supporters, though his core beliefs of solidity and pragmatism will not be compromised. "My Madrid will always play well, attack and will be winners," Mourinho said. "Having said that, my team always goes out on the pitch with a clear idea: to win. And if we are winning 3-1 and we only have ten players on the pitch, then my players will have to sit back to defend. That's the way it is."

Mourinho certainly has the tools with which to construct a more adventurous approach. With Cristiano Ronaldo, Gonzalo Higuain, Kaka, et al, Real scored 102 league goals last season and amassed 96 points - a tally that would have smashed the Spanish record but for Barcelona going three better in a frankly ridiculous season.

Perez is certainly confident that his big-money signing will not betray the club's history. "Mourinho's style of play will surely fit in with the style of play of the history of Madrid. Firstly, to win, the spirit of sacrifice, values, I think it will fit in perfectly,'' Perez said. "Madrid is betting on stability, the stability of the Madridistas is to win and be leaders in Europe."

The words "stability" and "Real Madrid" and do not look right together. "Jose Mourinho" and "Real Madrid" do, but it remains to be seen whether stylistic issues will serve to undermine this apparent match made in heaven.
 

Barcafan 2304

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yes please

Certainly would be 4 great signings
 

Beast

The Observer
Think about Kevin ...

Mourinho is the ultimate Galactico coach , he is the Cristiano Ronaldo of manager ...

he falls right into Perez utopia
 

Beast

The Observer
Yep but IF (capital ) he win the 10th .. the rest will be small details people hated Capello till the 3-3 game and since than he turned to a fan favorite and people wanted him to stay
, i'm not saying he will win the 10th but his track record is very impressive
6 league titles in 3 different leagues , 5 cups in 3 leagues , 1 UEFA cup , 2 CL , 136 unbeaten home record in league competitions all in last 8 season

expect a tough start , fans booing at times but he will have the Madrid press on his side the same way they were with the likes of Kaka,CR .. this plays a difference with Jose ..
his signing in itself has caused a big worry in the Catalan capital .. that's a 1-0 already without touching the ball :D
 

Barcafan 2304

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I think it is worrying but we aint panicking. Of course, it goes without saying that Mourinho is a top coach who will further improve Real but we should not be panicking and continue to believe that our own method of approaching the game, our transfer targets and our long-term vision is correct and will bring further success. If there is anyone panicking associated with Barca, id be very disappointed. This is a unique challenge and i believe that a stronger Real (even stronger than last season!) will push us on to further achievement.

Any way, its going to be one hell of a show whatever happens and the only thing we can safely predict is that Mourinho will bring an added dimension to this rivalry. Cant wait for the new season!
 

beef-supreme

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Mourinho's good but he's hardly infallible, just remember guys, he could barely scrap a Serie A title this year with a squad that is a million times better than any other squad in the Serie A. Every year for Inter should've been a walk in the park but Mourinho proved to be very vulnerable indeed. He is a fantastic coach but there's no need to think he's god.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Yep but IF (capital ) he win the 10th .. the rest will be small details people hated Capello till the 3-3 game and since than he turned to a fan favorite and people wanted him to stay
, i'm not saying he will win the 10th but his track record is very impressive
6 league titles in 3 different leagues , 5 cups in 3 leagues , 1 UEFA cup , 2 CL , 136 unbeaten home record in league competitions all in last 8 season

expect a tough start , fans booing at times but he will have the Madrid press on his side the same way they were with the likes of Kaka,CR .. this plays a difference with Jose ..
his signing in itself has caused a big worry in the Catalan capital .. that's a 1-0 already without touching the ball :D

???
 

Abaddon

King of the Bottomless Pit
Mourinho's good but he's hardly infallible, just remember guys, he could barely scrap a Serie A title this year with a squad that is a million times better than any other squad in the Serie A. Every year for Inter should've been a walk in the park but Mourinho proved to be very vulnerable indeed. He is a fantastic coach but there's no need to think he's god.
Stop embarrassing yourself, the man just won the treble with Inter and you're talking about how he struggled in the serie A? Seriously?
 

Raed

Dr. Raed St. Claire
-Facepalm-

Beef, the team you are speaking off had a mental siege for years, very long years. To get them to win three titles is incredible and while he was exposed in Serie A it doesn't mean he didn't overcome the challenges. He isn't god, no one is. But he is very well rounded, and has acquired incredible and very valuable experience.

Just like player, managers need to adjust, and he did just fine. The drop in form for Inter came hand in hand with unforseen advancement in the CL and to be competing in 3 competitions at the same time and that the players themselves found themselves in an unfamiliar situation and panicked.
 

Beast

The Observer
Mourinho's good but he's hardly infallible, just remember guys, he could barely scrap a Serie A title this year with a squad that is a million times better than any other squad in the Serie A. Every year for Inter should've been a walk in the park but Mourinho proved to be very vulnerable indeed. He is a fantastic coach but there's no need to think he's god.
Peter the level of managers in Serie A is way superior to the EPL & Liga .. they don't have money for big names but the managers are without a shadow of a doubt is way better ..
so your post is .. well .. far from the truth


Check your press , your players / officials & your fellow cule's
 

House of Flies

all your bases belong to us
mourinho is not a good tactician (in the mould of capello) but he is a good man manager.

you are not going to get a tactician (pelligrini was a better tactician but a horrible man manager).
 
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