Ronald Koeman
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KingLeo10
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Vilarrubi
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Scene when I couldn't wait for international breaks to escape Valverde Haramball.
so true.Keep seeing people say "I don't see 352/343 working longterm" and I'm confused as to why. Can someone explain why that would be the case. You have to apply the same logic to the alternative formations though before saying why. For example "I don't think 352 will work because that formation specifically brings about this vulnerability". Otherwise we could all just say a random formation won't work longterm, it doesn't hold much substance to simply say that statement.
The way I see it, it is the best formation for our team, it's the best for our veterans who look 5 years younger, it's better for our fullbacks, better for our defence. Can't see any negatives at the moment COMPARED TO other formations.
The way I see it, it is the best formation for our team, it's the best for our veterans who look 5 years younger, it's better for our fullbacks, better for our defence. Can't see any negatives at the moment COMPARED TO other formations.
Probably because of history. It has won leagues but no CL's or WC/EC in modern day football, AFAIK.
Maybe it is currently our best formation. But it's mostly because it limits our liabilities. If those liabilities don't exist from the start, a back 4 is probably better IMO.
A back 4 is simply more balanced in the long run. 3 ATB is great for certain situations but I feel it can be countered by a good team.
malvolio
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plus we have some wingers in the squad that would find it hard to get games and frenkie as a long term fix at CB(libero) might not work since he isn't that good defensively.
Bobo32
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I have said this, and tried to explain, but I'll write something again:
3-4-1-2 or similar was tried at the start of the season, and didn't really work - very predictable buildup, leading to U-shape passing. The three defenders were in the same line and not really adding anything, mostly the ball was played to the lateral defenders, the worst players of the team, with the only options to play it out to isolated full backs, to marked CMs, or to hoof it. The hoofing worked sometimes, but there was no control. After a few won games, the predictable backlash came and Koeman didn't dare to try it for some time.
Then 3-5-2 was tried, and this worked a lot better, since Busquets was central and had people in front of him. Basically, the midfield formation was the same, and one of the attackers was replaced with a CB, meaning some more space up front, and some more safety at the back, compared to the 4-3-3 that is so proven to work.
This version has worked OK so far, and I am starting to melt on it a bit. De Jong playing at the back is key, and it's key to not have Busquets and Pedri be too isolated with too much space defensively.
I was always positive towards 3 at the back, but think the formation should be built around Busquets, and that Barcelona should control the center of the pitch. I don't think three men are needed in the first space in the buildup, and I don't think it's enough with 2 central midfielders most of the time. I think Barcelona have struggled a lot with the angles in the buildup this season, which they never did between Rijkaard and Koeman. I explain the succesful games in the last few weeks with the mental state of the teams, Sevilla was destroyed psychologically, PSG had already won, Sociedad crumbled after the first goals, but the first 30 minutes they played better than Barcelona...
bismp
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Windhook
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I had no expectations from Koeman when appointed last summer, although he was one of my favorite players in Cruyff's Dream team. Mainly due to the pessimism with everything that was going on at the club during that time and his not very successful managerial career. The first half of the season didn't show promise either. I'm glad he proved me wrong with the great football and results lately. The atmosphere at the club hasn't felt this good since 2015/16 season. Koeman managed to restore the confidence in the players (with the exception of few), introduced bunch of promising youngsters who grow with each game. All in all I believe Barca finally have their man who the players trust, nothing like the previous two managers. Koeman deserves to lead the team for another season. The new formation against Sevilla (0-2) was a gamble, but it's on its way of becoming revolutionary for the club. The big test will be next season with the club expected to sign some good to great players this summer.
Not to hype things, but the current season reminds me a bit of Rijkaard's first (2003/04) - bad first half until February or March 2004 and from then on Barca, with some key signings in the summer of 2004, became a dominant club.
Not to hype things, but the current season reminds me a bit of Rijkaard's first (2003/04) - bad first half until February or March 2004 and from then on Barca, with some key signings in the summer of 2004, became a dominant club.
Birdy
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BREAKING: Joan Laporta has already informed Ronald Koeman that he will remain as the first-team coach for next season as well. At the club, there is total confidence and satisfaction for the work he has done so far this season.
@esport3
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Joan Laporta and Rafael Yuste had called Ronald Koeman the day rumors about Nagelsmann started circulating around in the media. They had categorically denied the rumors to Koeman, also reaffirming about it in the club offices, informs Lluis Canut.
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19h
BREAKING: Joan Laporta has already informed Ronald Koeman that he will remain as the first-team coach for next season as well. At the club, there is total confidence and satisfaction for the work he has done so far this season.
@esport3
@HagridFCB
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17h
Joan Laporta and Rafael Yuste had called Ronald Koeman the day rumors about Nagelsmann started circulating around in the media. They had categorically denied the rumors to Koeman, also reaffirming about it in the club offices, informs Lluis Canut.
Birdy
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Apart from Messi, there are a lot of similarities between the two eras and the two seasons in particular: From bad football, player power, complacency, and coach changing to something new being built.
I think the parallels between Koeman and Rijkaard are super strong individually as well:
Both are not great tacticians, but have other qualities (leaders, respect, discipline, psychology - motivation).
Both seems to fail when they are left on their own (Koeman at Everton, So'ton / Rijkaard after Barca), but seem to thrive when they have a great tactical nous to complement their other qualities (Ten Cate for Rijkaard, Schreuder for Koeman).
I am optimistic.
But I want the double this season already, since I don't think either AM or RM deserve it more than Barca
Windhook
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Another similarity is that Barca had poor CFs that season - Saviola and Kluivert (their last for the club), who were outscored by Ronaldinho.
That El Clasico at Bernabeu and Xavi's goal was the boost of confidence the club needed. And what a game by Edgar Davids!
You'll see the goals' timing in the top comment.
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