Fati_Future_BallonDor
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You are now trying to distract from yourself 
Ronald Koeman
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Rassvet
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I sort of agree. Koeman isn't the problem, but he's not the answer to fixing our problems either.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Koeman did mistakes.....like all coaches do but one mistake is unforgivable rassvet - you cant let Puig on the bench.
Nazario1985
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Nobody is saying RK is the problem ... but he is inexistant and have no clue how to enhance the team.
Why would you keep someone who can't bring results nor help share the futur ?
Wasn't that the culprit about EV that he can't reshape the team (which is true) and "people don't care about winning la ligua" ?
Well RK can't do both !
His best time as a manager was for the Dutch NT "not making them look as terrible as they were" before he joined ... maybe that's his thing he should be back at it.
Why would you keep someone who can't bring results nor help share the futur ?
Wasn't that the culprit about EV that he can't reshape the team (which is true) and "people don't care about winning la ligua" ?
Well RK can't do both !
His best time as a manager was for the Dutch NT "not making them look as terrible as they were" before he joined ... maybe that's his thing he should be back at it.
Nazario1985
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When a board is weak unprofessional things happen ...
I'm sure Puig didn't get the same treatment as FCB isn't that stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0m1f9cZg58
I'm sure Puig didn't get the same treatment as FCB isn't that stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0m1f9cZg58
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Who should replace Koeman?
Bobo32
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Talking about yourself I assume...
You don't really counter my points or answer my questions, but bring up other stuff.
Ok, fine, I will still counter your post in an honest way it doesn't really deserve.
I think you should at least respond to the things that end with a question mark.
To give some historical sense and show the trend. If you don't want that, here are the 5 year numbers:
Actual goal difference: 79, 70, 54, 48, 47
Actual # points taken: 90, 93, 87, 82, (82 with 2 more wins)
And if you don't want to see 5 years back, you can see for yourself that the last two seasons are roughly the same in both actual points and actual GD.
Last season had two managers sacked, and was (until this season) the worst season since Rijkaard.
Yes it was, but not on that site.
In any way, for your comparison to make sense, you should say something about the significance of the differences. It's not enough to say it's "massive"
Ok, I'd think to get a penalty you need to have the ball in the box, it doesn't come from the sky.
It makes sense to exclude penalties from a players goal stats, but I fail to see why you'd do it for a team.
Your (excellent) site fbref doesn't include this stat on the team pages, neither in fixtures or in the tables what I see. I see the simple xG and xGA everywhere.
Could you point me towards where you find these non penalty xG for teams on the site?
Okay, so we see that Barcelona traditionally overperform their xG.
Less so this year.
It's interesting, maybe this is a significant difference, while I don't think chance creation was.
Do you have an explanation for it, or do you see conversion as pure chance, whereas the xG is pure fact?
If there was any massive improvement this year, it wasn't in hindering opponents chances.
Also, if anything it looks as if ter Stegen performed better than in the previous 2 years, or the opponent attackers underperformed.
If, if, if.
If these 10 goals you want to count on was given in a single game Barcelona already won, nothing would change but the statistics.
I don't know if you would feel your argument was stronger or weaker then?
This is largely correct
Barcelona should be better than pretty much all the teams in la liga, and they should beat them in xPTS. Actual points will be less clear than xPTS, as the variance will be larger.
Barcelona played well enough to be champions this year.
Two points that you didn't respond to:
- What's the significance of the change? You can pick either vs last year or vs any other time period, and choose whatever metric you like.
- The expected goal difference based on these numbers would be: 36, 28, 31, 36 roughly. Significant? Satisfied with sample size?
Nazario1985
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That's the 1M$ answer as we should NOT do what we did for EV and bring the first guy available (which lets be honest its pretty much how barto landed RK his job after Setien).
No change for the sake of the change.
If we can sign the likes of Ten Hag if he is clearly convincing the board then we go with that.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Ten Haag would be nice but very difficult, i think at the moment its really not easy to get a great coach. Maybe i would also go for Bielsa, leeds is playing great football.
Bobo32
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Birdy, or anyone else, still have a lot to do to show that.
Your initial response was much better.
Richard.H
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Tired of this blue balls feeling this season. Before supercopa final vs Bilbao we played great and were even leading only to lose. Before CL second leg we were playing great only to come out with a tie even though we were clearly superior. Before second match with RM we looked deadly on attack only to play like pussies and not attack until the last 15 mins. And then you have the League there for the taking only for us to lose to Granada (in the last 20 mins mind you) and to draw vs a piss poor Levante.
This has been the blue balls season for me.
This has been the blue balls season for me.
Richard.H
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Poor lad, seems like he was quite young at the time too. Disgusting behavior from RK
fergus90
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I wasn't talking about my personal viewpoint with that by the way. The xG stats say what they say but if you don't set store by them much( which I don't) then it's little consolation for the position we find ourselves in now.
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