Ronald Koeman

[Bobo32]

Here's the basic gestalt of the situation:

Pep built the Barcelona to destroy football, left a team where everyone had "BarcaDNA"
His succesors Tito and Tata tried to continue on the same path, but faced an allied Europe, aware that Barcelona were much superior, determined to break that "tikitaki" style, seeking a specific antidote for it.
And they partly succeeded, enough to convince a lot of people that they could moan about Barcelona being sterile, predictable, slow etc...
Rosell brought Neymar and Suarez and also Rakitic, to bring some "verticality"
Enrique arrived, and quite luckily got his success, by relying much more on MSN, offering a bit of control for a bit more space for MSN.
This was seen as a success for this more direct style, but the core of the team was still Pique, Busquets, Iniesta, Alves etc - not only great players but BarcaDNA players.
On top of that they had the best trio ever up front...

Since at least then there are two major camps, those who want back the controlling BarcaDNA style, and those that are still stuck in wanting MORE of verticality and physique.
Those who don't want control quickly blame the players able to play in that manner every time their lack of physicality shows
I guess it's the same the other way around too.

Here we are, 2021 and the last players from that great team Pep built are on their last years. Some say they're done and I say these players should get the good last years they deserve, to finally play in a way that fully shows their potential. It's tough for them to shine when they play with Araujo, Dest, Depay and Long de Jong though... And Excuseman is not the man to lead the team.

Of course it is not as easy as just putting BarcaDNA players in a 4-3-3 and everything will work, but you need to work in a clear way with the right kind of players.

 

[mc_lovin]

Ever since the glory days of Pep there seems to be this weird thinking at the club that there is an easy way to recreate that simply by hiring "Barca DNA" coaches and players, but there doesn't seem to be any deeper analysis in the decision process beyond having a past in the club and having some technical skills, and sometimes it even seems entirely random when it comes to recruitments.

It's almost like they took the DNA part seriously and thought there actually was something genetically that automatically makes them a good fit

Looking back it's actually incredible how many transfers were complete failures, and therefore we never even could attempt to build upon a new core. Busi and Pique get shit on 24/7, but at the end of the end it's not their fault they still start for us.

Koeman was ok at the NT, but that was about it. All further qualification just stems from his past as a player here. And don't get me wrong it's not a bad thing, but when it's basically the number #1 reason to hire someone it's a bad sign. Someone like Xavi at least was a midfielder in the golden era so you can expect a somewhat deeper understanding of what made that team so great in contrast yo simply playing for the club years ago. Still a gamble though, but would at least make some sense.

I can't hear the Barca DNA narrative anymore. That's not what sunk us. From our transfers in the last 10 years or so there are only a handful players I would categorize as Barca DNA. Most of them were just not good enough, and neither small or technical or whatever Barca DNA is.

Coaches are a different story (if having a history with Barcelona equates to Barca DNA). But yeah, Setien was probably the one... he was here for what? 3 months?

 

[FCBfan22]

Teflon Ronald.

 

[malvolio]

I can't hear the Barca DNA narrative anymore. That's not what sunk us. From our transfers in the last 10 years or so there are only a handful players I would categorize as Barca DNA. Most of them were just not good enough, and neither small or technical or whatever Barca DNA is.

Coaches are a different story (if having a history with Barcelona equates to Barca DNA). But yeah, Setien was probably the one... he was here for what? 3 months?

Setien was a bum. Otherwise yeah, Rosell basically wanted to run as far away from Barca DNA and Cruyff as possible. He thrown Cruyff out and forced Pep also by shitting on him trough the Catalan media.
Messi was also targeted, by bringing in Tata Martino to make it out as if Messi knows the guy and runs things at the club. And by bringing in Messi's heir in Neymar. That was Rosell's vision - a new Barca, different from the past, with Neymar as the superstar to spearhead the project.

We then fucked around by bringing in poor player after poor player. No Barca DNA whatsoever and also 0 quality. Setien had no Barca DNA, the guy just seemed to have some traits, but he was awful.

 

[iniestaGOAT]

I can't hear the Barca DNA narrative anymore. That's not what sunk us. From our transfers in the last 10 years or so there are only a handful players I would categorize as Barca DNA. Most of them were just not good enough, and neither small or technical or whatever Barca DNA is.

Coaches are a different story (if having a history with Barcelona equates to Barca DNA). But yeah, Setien was probably the one... he was here for what? 3 months?

No coaches are hired cause of Barca DNA. Only thing they are asked to do is to play attacking/ entertaining football.
Which includes no 3 CBs and double pivots AKA coward tactics.

If laporta could he would get Tuchel, Klopp and Pep (as first options)

 

[Messigician]

🚨| #AtletiBar?a | Koeman criticized Nico: ?We can not leave spaces when we lose a ball. Nico did not continue after Lemar, he left him alone, now you know why we play with 3 CB.?

Why don?t you also criticize strong players and only young players?

 

[Jaguar]

I'm actually shocked some people think replacing Koeman won't do anything and that it's 100% the squad. They're as clueless as this guy to think that. #koemanout

 

[Rory]

Koeman doesn't get enough credit, he's now made us all look forward to international breaks. What a legend!

 

[xXKonan]

The Squad isn't good enough, but he certainly isn't good enough either.

 

[Bobo32]

🚨| #AtletiBar?a | Koeman criticized Nico: ?We can not leave spaces when we lose a ball. Nico did not continue after Lemar, he left him alone, now you know why we play with 3 CB.?

Why don?t you also criticize strong players and only young players?

Yeah fucking hell it's unreal to see stuff like this.
"Now you know" why the hell didn't you do it again then, if it's so good? And why did Araujo play as if he was playing 3atb still? Stupid idea to have Nico and Busquets follow runs in behind the defence because the CBs are out on the sideline trying to do..something?

 

[Messigician]

Ronald Koeman gave the team 5 days off 🔴

Lol?

 

[Messigician]

Koeman singled out Nico during his press conference, something which the dressing room hated. The matter was discussed in length during return flight to Barcelona, and the heavyweights of the dressing room even approached the youngster to show their support.

🚨[ @fansjavimiguel🥇] | As much as Ronald Koeman assures that he has the support of the players, the truth is that a good part of the squad has long since stopped believing in the Dutch coach.

Koeman has almost completely lost the dressing room. Nobody liked that he publicly blamed Nico for Atleti?s first goal yesterday. The young midfielder was already distraught after his half-time substitution, and the manager?s words hurt him even more.

? @fansjavimiguel

 

[soul24rage]

Ronald Koeman gave the team 5 days off ��

Lol?

Calma, it's the international break now.

 

[Messigician]

Calma, it's the international break now.

So? 5 day break bad for players not on international duty

 

[ajnotkeith]

Koeman singled out Nico during his press conference, something which the dressing room hated. The matter was discussed in length during return flight to Barcelona, and the heavyweights of the dressing room even approached the youngster to show their support.

��[ @fansjavimiguel��] | As much as Ronald Koeman assures that he has the support of the players, the truth is that a good part of the squad has long since stopped believing in the Dutch coach.

Koeman has almost completely lost the dressing room. Nobody liked that he publicly blamed Nico for Atleti?s first goal yesterday. The young midfielder was already distraught after his half-time substitution, and the manager?s words hurt him even more.

? @fansjavimiguel

Trust the heavyweights to support lazy players. Whole club is rotten, loser's mentality.

I think it will give Nico a wakeup call that it takes more to make it here than jogging around and passing sideways (Busi being the exception to the rule). This is one of the rare times where a player would do well to listen to Koeman rather than Twitter and the cules that somehow think he played well. Even worse, not only did he play really bad but he couldn't be bothered to sprint back when he got caught out of position twice for 2 goals and dropped his man on Araujo and Pique, who got a ton of stick from the fans.

For most coaches mistakes from young players are fine but if any of you guys were managers and you saw players jogging back after losing the ball and blowing their assignment in important games, you would be outraged.