Samuel Umtiti

[Messi983]

The proof of this is that the two parties have agreed to an exit clause at the beginning of the third year by which both Bar?a and Umtiti, paying an amount that has not transpired, will be able to 'cut' the agreement that has been signed until 2026. It is an exercise in realism, in line with the situation in Samuel Umtiti, who had already finished his contract in 2023 and until now Bar?a had not shown interest in renewing it for sporting reasons, quite the opposite.

 

[delancey]

Not sure what is being added there.

Opportunity cost = return on the best option not chosen - return on the option chosen.

The only way this makes sense for Umtiti is if he is guaranteed the full value of his old contract should he leave before 2026 (preferably in 2023). Otherwise, he just gave up additional earnings at another club once his old contract expires in 2023.

 

[JamDav1982]

Opportunity cost = return on the best option not chosen - return on the option chosen.

The only way this makes sense for Umtiti is if he is guaranteed the full value of his old contract should he leave before 2026 (preferably in 2023). Otherwise, he just gave up additional earnings at another club once his old contract expires in 2023.

None the wiser as to what that adds to what was already discussed.

 

[Windhook]

Bad piece of business as Umtiti is useless even with reduced salary. Apparently nobody wants him.

 

[ronniecro]

when i think we can't sink any lower....

 

[MTL_Barca]

Maybe the guy is truly so oblivious that he thinks a good team will go for him eventually and that's why he just wants to stay longer

But at least somewhat of a nice gesture by Umtiti i guess, he could've just done nothing and get the same/potentially more money. Still a leech though, should just fuck off if he really wanted to help out.

 

[delancey]

I guess he'll get it paid until 2026 no matter what, so let's say he joins another club on a permanent basis in summer 2024: He'll get paid until 2026 by two clubs, which are Barca and his new club. At least that's what I would offer as it is a motivation to leave and earn more money in the end.

Short term it is good for the club and the registration of Ferran. Midterm it further burdens the salary cap with an useless player.

Yup, that?s how I see it too.

 

[Messi983]

Bad piece of business as Umtiti is useless even with reduced salary. Apparently nobody wants him.

Nah, it's a good deal from a financial viewpoint.

We'll save serious money over next 18 months, it will be easier to loan him with lower wages and as mentioned in my previous post there is a clause where we can pay him out the rest of his contract in summer 2023 (if in a position to do that - and I'm willing to bet that we'll be in a much better financial state by then) to let him go.

Surely much better than continue to pay him current wages to sit on the bench.

 

[FCBarca]

The "wage impact" for a possible transfer is a benefit for the club, not him. He was always able to reduce his wages to whatever he wanted if he wanted to play elsewhere. The only benefit for him is that he is now guaranteed to have a club till 2026, while possibly after 2023 he feared no one would want him.

It's a benefit for him as well since said wage impact prevented his movement elsewhere - reducing his wages meant he'd lose money, this way the total is preserved but annual hit is reduced and facilitates a move to a different club

 

[malvolio]

Nah, it's a good deal from a financial viewpoint.

We'll save serious money over next 18 months, it will be easier to loan him with lower wages and as mentioned in my previous post there is a clause where we can pay him out the rest of his contract in summer 2023 (if in a position to do that - and I'm willing to bet that we'll be in a much better financial state by then) to let him go.

Surely much better than continue to pay him current wages to sit on the bench.

you need a clause for that? just terminate his contract and pay his full salary.

also, the loan part is bullshit. what stopped other clubs up until now to offer to pay 20% of his salary over the loan period? isn't that like the same thing?

the real win is that we defer payment and salary budget is not overburdened.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Nah, it's a good deal from a financial viewpoint.

We'll save serious money over next 18 months, it will be easier to loan him with lower wages and as mentioned in my previous post there is a clause where we can pay him out the rest of his contract in summer 2023 (if in a position to do that - and I'm willing to bet that we'll be in a much better financial state by then) to let him go.

Surely much better than continue to pay him current wages to sit on the bench.

True true. Good deal for both sides.

 

[Messi983]

you need a clause for that? just terminate his contract and pay his full salary.

It's a clause because both sides can use it. Obviously it will be Barca who will pay him to leave.

 

[malvolio]

It's a clause because both sides can use it. Obviously it will be Barca who will pay him to leave.

huh? what clause? like umtiti just saying he wants out but with his money paid in full?

you don't need a clause to terminate the contract or to achieve mutual termination.

 

[Vladinho]

🚨[ @gerardromero🥇] | Samuel Umtiti has decreased his salary by 10% and would be earning the amount he would have earned in 18 months over the next 54 months.

The club can cut short his stay, and the Frenchman can leave the club for free in 2023, if he so desires.

#fcblive


The club will have to pay his one year salary (?6M) if they decide to terminate his contract.

 

[delancey]

you need a clause for that? just terminate his contract and pay his full salary.

also, the loan part is bullshit. what stopped other clubs up until now to offer to pay 20% of his salary over the loan period? isn't that like the same thing?

the real win is that we defer payment and salary budget is not overburdened.

I imagine that the benefit of a clause here would allow the club to terminate the contract before 2026, with the payment details of the remaining value of the old contract already sorted out, and perhaps scheduled over several years after he is gone to minimize the financial burden. He gets his money, but on terms that are beneficial to the club, without all the uncertainty.