Sandro Rosell

[JamDav1982]

Did you genuinely miss the "just to name one" part again? I was simply giving Laporta as an example. It can be Cruijff, Carmen de Mairena or my dog's left testicle. The point I was trying to make is that I personally believe that before people will start to believe in an early vote a proper candidate will have to come forward. Get it?

Well naming Laporta as prominent figure who could come forward and run suggests you think there would be support for him surely?

 

[MessiNeymar]

Point me to one link that states Pep left because of issues with Rosell.

Their issues arose after he left, where have I ever denied that?

The medical staff did not think Abidal was healthy enough to perform at top level anymore.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1...ola-blasts-barcelona-president-rosell?cc=5739


"I told them [the president and his directors] I was going 6,000km away and asked them to leave me in peace, but they haven't kept their word," he said. "I did my time [at Barcelona] then decided to leave.
"I want them to get on with the job and I wish them all the success in the world, because their success will also be mine - I don't need to say what I feel for this club."

 

[Galning]

Well naming Laporta as prominent figure who could come forward and run suggests you think there would be support for him surely?

No. Please prove where you get this from.

 

[JamDav1982]

No. Please prove where you get this from.

Jeepers!

You said that if a prominent figure like Laporta threw their name in that hat you are 100% sure there would be a vote of no confidence. Which completely implies you believe there would be a support for Laporta or a Laporta backed figure.

Its quite straightforward what you said!

 

[DonAndres]

They were correct not to give Abidal a contract and he doesn't feel hard done by at all by the club and they treated him very well.

As for predictions on signings - whats the big deal there?

I have not once said that 'Rosell was pressured into resigning or even once said he has been a great president' Try and keep up.

There is no evidence at all that Pep left due to a dispute with Rosell he said the exact opposite and left at a time which was true to the words he was saying before Rosell even got elected.

I have never once said Rosell has done nothing wrong on the Neymar transfer. I have been asking those who are claiming he has committed a crime to tell us what they know and wait to see what he is even being accused of before deciding he is guilty. Also have said that if he has done anything wrong on this issue he is correct to go.

That is one terrible post from you to be fair. Try and read up before spouting off.

I didn't bother taking word for word quotes from previous posts, the point was made to show how your logic on the situation works. The reason that debates with you always go in circles is like I said before, your method of believing evidence is that it all has to be official or quoted to be true and that contrasts with everyone else. It's why an argument with you is always like a dog vs cat since not only are opinions different, but the wavelengths are completely separate as well. I find your style of interpretation of information to be a really odd way of approaching an analysis on Rosell as a president since he's a man bathed in the game of politics and half of what is shown on the outside is face-saving and complimenting to his image, so the official side of things is to be seriously doubted and it's logical to realize that there's more going on underneath in these affairs.

You can even see that in how you tried to discredit my post not by refuting the principle behind it, but by making a few corrections on my quotations which wasn't even a significant part of what I was trying to say. I'm not saying that you're not entitled to interpret things the way you do, I'm just saying that when it comes to Rosell there are a lot more factors to look at than pure tangible "evidence" when talking about his work as president.

 

[Galning]

Or any other figure for that matter. Like Carmen. Why are you totally ignoring her? I am not solely focussing on a Laporta backed figure, whatever that may be. I think you think that I want Laporta as the next president, which I don't. I just want the current board out.

Don't want Carmen go to waste on the previous page. Carmen for presi.

 

[JamDav1982]

I didn't bother taking word for word quotes from previous posts, the point was made to show how your logic on the situation works. The reason that debates with you always go in circles is like I said before, your method of believing evidence is that it all has to be official or quoted to be true and that contrasts with everyone else. It's why an argument with you is always like a dog vs cat since not only are opinions different, but the wavelengths are completely separate as well. I find your style of interpretation of information to be a really odd way of approaching an analysis on Rosell as a president since he's a man bathed in the game of politics and half of what is shown on the outside is face-saving and complimenting to his image, so the official side of things is to be seriously doubted and it's logical to realize that there's more going on underneath in these affairs.

You can even see that in how you tried to discredit my post not by refuting the principle behind it, but by making a few corrections on my quotations which wasn't even a significant part of what I was trying to say. I'm not saying that you're not entitled to interpret things the way you do, I'm just saying that when it comes to Rosell there are a lot more factors to look at than pure tangible "evidence" when talking about his work as president.

You cant show my logic by making up words I never said. Not even using quotes but giving ideas that I have never said once.

Keep to the facts.

Your post was pointless made up rubbish and you have given more of the same again. Haha a few corrections on quotations? No it was complete made up bulls shit you came up with and I replied to the points you made.

 

[JamDav1982]

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1...ola-blasts-barcelona-president-rosell?cc=5739


"I told them [the president and his directors] I was going 6,000km away and asked them to leave me in peace, but they haven't kept their word," he said. "I did my time [at Barcelona] then decided to leave.
"I want them to get on with the job and I wish them all the success in the world, because their success will also be mine - I don't need to say what I feel for this club."

Are you for real?

Did you even read what I posted?

 

[JamDav1982]

Or any other figure for that matter. Like Carmen. Why are you totally ignoring her? I am not solely focussing on a Laporta backed figure, whatever that may be. I think you think that I want Laporta as the next president, which I don't. I just want the current board out.

Don't want Carmen go to waste on the previous page. Carmen for presi.

Because you never mentioned her in the post I replied to originally.

You mentioned Laporta as someone that would 100% get a vote of no confidence in the board.

Regardless do you think there would be support for Laporta or a Laporta backed man?

 

[MessiNeymar]

Are you for real?

Did you even read what I posted?

Yes, and ofcourse there is never going to be a full qoute but there is proof that they don't get along

 

[Galning]

Because you never mentioned her in the post I replied to originally.

You mentioned Laporta as someone that would 100% get a vote of no confidence in the board.

Regardless do you think there would be support for Laporta or a Laporta backed man?

And there's the main reason of the confusion. I should have added more names.
I don't know. I think there would be enough backing for the vote of no confidence to take place since 15% is not much. There's a difference however between collecting 15% of the socios' signatures and then actually winning the vote of no confidence. Will another candidate be able to get the majority of the votes? Who knows.

 

[jamrock]

"His refusal to accept Johan Cruyff as honorary president, his in-depth investigation and disapproval of Joan Laporta's accounts during his time as president and the lack of understanding with legendary manager Pep Guardiola were key negative factors which the Catalan public will find difficult to forget. His past as a Nike executive in Brazil and dealings with dubious former CBF chief Ricardo Teixeira certainly didn't help either."

Tomas from ESPN not a fan of his but damn near every barca fan, sees the above as negatives against rosell. except ONE because their is no "facts"

 

[Galning]

Moved some posts from other thread to this one. Please try and stick to Rosell, Bartomeu or the news thread to discuss this affair. I know it's really difficult because this affects everything within the club but it's always good to keep some perspective and if every thread gets filled with this... that'd be bad mkay.

 

[JamDav1982]

And there's the main reason of the confusion. I should have added more names.
I don't know. I think there would be enough backing for the vote of no confidence to take place since 15% is not much. There's a difference however between collecting 15% of the socios' signatures and then actually winning the vote of no confidence. Will another candidate be able to get the majority of the votes? Who knows.

The thing that puts me off about Laporta is that he started to get dangerously close to being a dictator type figure in his time towards the later years. Which was exactly the type of regime they took over to remove.

I don't think towards the end he was a great president and struck lucky with Pep, who covered a lot of his inefficiencies.

But that is a mute point as he played a part in Pep getting job anyway.

 

[JamDav1982]

"His refusal to accept Johan Cruyff as honorary president, his in-depth investigation and disapproval of Joan Laporta's accounts during his time as president and the lack of understanding with legendary manager Pep Guardiola were key negative factors which the Catalan public will find difficult to forget. His past as a Nike executive in Brazil and dealings with dubious former CBF chief Ricardo Teixeira certainly didn't help either."

Tomas from ESPN not a fan of his but damn near every barca fan, sees the above as negatives against rosell. except ONE because their is no "facts"

This has been done to death but once elected he could not have kept Cruyff in the club, it would have been carnage and Cruyff would have no qualms in starting a power struggle.

Dissaproval of accounts - the general concensus is that the true figures were somewhere between what Laporta and Rosell claimed. But remember the club had lost 100m in Laportas last year and had just applied for a 150m loan in order to pay the players. The debt situation was getting dangerous when Laporta left. Rosell did exaggerate it to make himself look like a bit of a financial saviour though.