Saul Niguez

[JamDav1982]

Worse is claiming any player Liverpool are interested in is quality because Klopp never gets it wrong.

Then claiming Saul is 'mediocre' when Liverpool are interested.

That and using 'stats' to favour Braithwaite as Barcas best finisher are as lame as it gets on here.

 

[DonAK]

 

[Joan]

A friend of mine who's an Atletico fan described him to me as a player 'who plays as if he's about to kill himself as soon as the match ends'. Don't think he's wrong either.

 

[Birdy]

Worse is claiming any player Liverpool are interested in is quality because Klopp never gets it wrong.

Then claiming Saul is 'mediocre' when Liverpool are interested.

That and using 'stats' to favour Braithwaite as Barcas best finisher are as lame as it gets on here.

Braithwaite was the 2nd best finisher (behind Ansu) in 20/21 when I posted those stats, before Messi rediscovered his form.

Just as Saul's entire career stats show he is bottom of the important categories compared with real 'box to box' midfielders.

Next one.
How about making an argument for once in your life here?

 

[JamDav1982]

Braithwaite was the 2nd best finisher (behind Ansu) in 20/21 when I posted those stats, before Messi rediscovered his form.

Just as Saul's entire career stats show he is bottom of the important categories compared with real 'box to box' midfielders.

Next one.
How about making an argument for once in your life here?

No Braithwaite wasnt second best finisher and all it shows is how much you cant understand from stats.

Well done on doubling down on it. Suits you.

Braithwaite is an awful finisher. Worst in squad of the forwards.

Klopp being interested in Saul not enough anymore?

 

[Birdy]

Klopp and Tuchel want Saul so he is a great player.

Is that your last resort after all your (Saul supporters) arguments in favor of Saul collapsed like twin towers?

The list is still being written:

Fantasy: Saul is the md we need
Reality: He is NOT. Bottom in all the box to box categories

Fantasy: Saul had only a bad season in 20/21
Reality: Saul's entire career stats still have him bottom in the important box to box categories

Fantasy: Koeman wants Saul
Reality: Koeman wanted Wijnaldum, and will OK any signing of midfielder because the club will force it on him

Fantasy: Saul will reinvigorate himself in a complete md in 21/22
Reality: Saul will become Pjanic 2.0, and we will be looking for buyers come next summer

 

[JamDav1982]

Is that your last resort after all your (Saul supporters) arguments in favor of Saul collapsed like twin towers?

The list is still being written:

Fantasy: Saul is the md we need
Reality: He is NOT. Bottom in all the box to box categories

Fantasy: Saul had only a bad season in 20/21
Reality: Saul's entire career stats still have him bottom in the important box to box categories

Fantasy: Koeman wants Saul
Reality: Koeman wanted Wijnaldum, and will OK any signing of midfielder because the club will force it on him

Fantasy: Saul will reinvigorate himself in a complete md in 21/22
Reality: Saul will become Pjanic 2.0, and we will be looking for buyers come next summer

No last resort argument.

Just an easy argument to show how moronic your claims about Klopp etc are.

 

[Birdy]

No Braithwaite wasnt second best finisher and all it shows is how much you cant understand from stats.

I will type it one last time.
When we had that argument last Dec or Jan, Braith was according to the stats the 2nd best finisher in G/Xg (convertion rate) behind Ansu.
Whether you like it or not.

That changed later as Messi rediscovered his scoring form.

If you wanna keep talking about it, talk to yourself.
THANKS

 

[JamDav1982]

I will type it one last time.
When we had that argument last Dec or Jan, Braith was according to the stats the 2nd best finisher in G/Xg (convertion rate) behind Ansu.
Whether you like it or not.

That changed later as Messi rediscovered his scoring form.

If you wanna keep talking about it, talk to yourself.
THANKS

Nope.

All that showed as I told you at time is dont read into stats to make inane statements such as 'Braithwaite is best finisher at club' which has never and will never be the case. He is an awful finisher.

As I told you at time. Someone who cant even move in right positions often enough but scores a couple tap ins... it does not make them a good finisher because it reflect a high % of chances taken.

All it shows is how flawed your 'understanding' of stats are.

Is the 'Klopp is never wrong argument' out the window now?

 

[Birdy]

Very funny.

Romano tweeted that Chelsea and Liverpool might get keen on him if deal collapses.

Now, If you watch his whole 'liverpool transfers' interview some days ago, he says clearly and loudly that
1) Liverpool will not go for any mid now, as they are looking for wingers. If an opportunity arises later in the window, they might go for a md
2) If they eventually go for a md at the end of the window, their top target is Renato Sanches.

AS for Dembele, that's a caricature of my argument.
I have writtens tons of pages of stats of why Dembele is a great players, and not the flop you make him to be.
That's the reason why I am defending him, not that Klopp wanted him.
Klopp wanting him only reinforces that he is not what you make him to be.

What does this has to do with Saul not being the md we need?
Nothing

But, I forgot
Since there is 0 argument left for Saul being the md we need,
now goalposts are shifted into "Liverpool/Chelsea might be interested in him"
As if this (if true) proves anything about the former

 

[DonAK]

I am sorry, but am I the one who put Klopp on such a high pedestal where I literally argued that Dembele is a great footballer because the great Jurgen Klopp wanted him?

Your argument was that if Jurgen Klopp want a player he must be great since he is never wrong. Both Jurgen Klopp and Thomas Tuchel want Saul Niguez.

Your turn.

 

[JamDav1982]

Very funny.

Romano tweeted that Chelsea and Liverpool might get keen on him if deal collapses.

Now, If you watch his whole 'liverpool transfers' interview some days ago, he says clearly and loudly that
1) Liverpool will not go for any mid now, as they are looking for wingers. If an opportunity arises later in the window, they might go for a md
2) If they eventually go for a md at the end of the window, their top target is Renato Sanches.

AS for Dembele, that's a caricature of my argument.
I have writtens tons of pages of stats of why Dembele is a great players, and not the flop you make him to be.
That's the reason why I am defending him, not that Klopp wanted him.
Klopp wanting him only reinforces that he is not what you make him to be.

What does this has to do with Saul not being the md we need?
Nothing

But, I forgot
Since there is 0 argument left for Saul being the md we need,
now goalposts are shifted into "Liverpool/Chelsea might be interested in him"
As if this (if true) proves anything about the former

Romano said Liverpool are interested in him. You claimed they are not.

Klopp only interested in good players was your previous claim. Using Romano as proof of interest.

Moronic argument exposed nice and easy.

I exposed your shite on Romano and his 'exclusives' back then and you vanished.

 

[Birdy]

Nope.

All that showed as I told you at time is dont read into stats to make inane statements such as 'Braithwaite is best finisher at club' which has never and will never be the case. He is an awful finisher.

As I told you at time. Someone who cant even move in right positions often enough but scores a couple tap ins... it does not make them a good finisher because it reflect a high % of chances taken.

All it shows is how flawed your 'understanding' of stats are.

Is the 'Klopp is never wrong argument' out the window now?

I will read into whatever I want. THANKS

You don't want to read stats. Fine
That's probably why you can never prove any of the points you make.
Which are not points, they are just personal likes/dislikes thrown out as 'arguments'

That's also why you never explain when asked by many here on a view of yours.
Because you can't explain it.

 

[JamDav1982]

I will read into whatever I want. THANKS

You don't want to read stats. Fine
That's probably why you can never prove any of the points you make.
Which are not points, they are just personal likes/dislikes thrown out as 'arguments'

That's also why you never explain when asked by many here on a view of yours.
Because you can't explain it.

Romano said 'there is an interest in Saul' from Liverpool.

Stop lying please.

Quicker just to admit your Klopp claim is complete bollocks as is your Romano 'exclusives' shout from past you vanished after being proven wrong on.

A year ago you were telling me how great Arthur and Semedo were. Less than that 'Braithwaite best finisher at club'. Getting in depth with any arguments is meaningless on players as not even worth it when claiming shite like that.

 

[Birdy]

I am sorry, but am I the one who put Klopp on such a high pedestal where I literally argued that Dembele is a great footballer because the great Jurgen Klopp wanted him?

Your argument was that if Jurgen Klopp want a player he must be great since he is never wrong. Both Jurgen Klopp and Thomas Tuchel want Saul Niguez.

Your turn.

Read again, I explained why I never only said 'he must be good just because Klopp wanted him'
That's not a proof.
It's an indication that all the other things I say about Dembele might have some truth in them.

Other than that, yes his track record in transfers is exceptional. Have you head that only from me? Probably not
Does he buys only WC? No.
He bought Shakiri as well. How many minutes does he play every season for Liverpool?
Is his transfer successful? Probably yes.