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Flavia
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Well, DonAk post was mostly about that. Gumbau and Camara getting 1st team chances ahead of Samper. That changes a lot.
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Well, DonAk post was mostly about that. Gumbau and Camara getting 1st team chances ahead of Samper. That changes a lot.
khaled_a_d
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Not much for now ,all 3 will be playing with Barca B this season .it is up to them to improve and convince 1st team coach about being promoted next summer .
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Flavia
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You know Gumbau doesn't deserve that, right? And still he got more minutes in preseason, and now this indicates he'll get more during the season too. Samper should go, for his sake. Or he might become another Bartra.
I'm not saying he will be a starter for Barça or anything. Just that enrique is giving chance to inferior players. This is worrying.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Let's be clear here
1-I am not arguing who is better .for me it is not a contest and Samper is far better talent than Gumbua
2-I am not talking about promotion right now .I am talking about the best for his development .that was the part I bolded in Donak post .
I am saying that the best for Samper development right now is to stay one more year in B team and work on his game b4 moving to the higher level
The weakness in his game is clear .he isn't physically ready for 1st team and he is DM (no one see him as CM except fans) which need strong players .he need to improve defense .or may be make everyone wish true and move to CM and master the position
If he moved now it could hurt him in the long term IMO .he will move to 1st team football next summer anyway due to the clause in his contract .just be patient one year and work on his game b4 taking the jump .
If Lucho still doesn't rate him high next yer or rate Gumbua higher then he better move on and leave whether sell with buy back or loan .if he is able to change Lucho mind then everything is good
Alik
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That's true. But it's an indication that Lucho doesn't rate him.
It looks like as long as Lucho is manager, Samper will have to wait in line behind all sorts of other players.
Alarcón
New member
It's not an indication at all. This is the 1st league game of the season, and people think they already know what's in Lucho's mind. Wait and see.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Samper was Lucho 3rd favorite youngster after Munir & Sandro .a month of less playing time doesn't suddenly change that .
May be Lucho trust Gerard as a coach and think letting Samper working with him will help him more .may be he just need stronger and more physical players for now .
Let's just be patient and not over react/over analyze things
Players need both playing time and training with 1st team ,that said I agree with your point .Samper need to be with Barca B more right now
Alik
Moderator
It's not proof, but it's an indication. And it's not based only on this match, but also on the preseason.
spark
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He already played 90 minutes against Elche and the excuse then was that Samper was needed for the relegation battle 
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For what ever reason Lucho likes Gumbau and that's all there is to it. Samper at least lucky he isn't Grimaldo who hasn't gotten a sniff of first team action. One thing I've thought about is that when we were signing overage players like Lomban, they at least help the team stay in the division and and didn't compete against la masia talents because they weren't in the same age group. The Camaras and Gumbaus are doing the opposite.
. For what ever reason Lucho likes Gumbau and that's all there is to it. Samper at least lucky he isn't Grimaldo who hasn't gotten a sniff of first team action. One thing I've thought about is that when we were signing overage players like Lomban, they at least help the team stay in the division and and didn't compete against la masia talents because they weren't in the same age group. The Camaras and Gumbaus are doing the opposite.
God Serena
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I feel like there's a bit of an overreaction going on here. Samper is clearly better than Gumbau and Camara. No matter what you think of Lucho, you can't think he's stupid enough to think otherwise. Injury wise our entire midfield + backups are all completely healthy, so any players called up won't get a sniff of any minutes anyways. Whenever Samper has been called up, with only one exception, Lucho has subbed him onto the game. With this in mind it's pretty easy to see what's happening here. Samper is obviously our best midfielder with the B team but moving him along too quickly or calling him up for a game he won't get minutes in will hurt his development. We don't want another Bojan/Munir/Deulofeu/Adama situation, now do we?
Plenty of our players have come to the first team after playing in the third division and they are doing just fine. Building on the skills they'll need for when they get promoted is more important than challenging them while they play. The real challenge can come from playing in the top flight, with teammates that aren't largely incompetent. If Samper works on his defensive game and just keeps on improving his distribution Barca B could lose every single game 10-0 and he'll improve, or they could win every game 10-0 and he'll improve. He's not a forward who has to contend with defenders who are better at tackling or a CB who has to content with pacier wingers.
Samper will be fine.
Plenty of our players have come to the first team after playing in the third division and they are doing just fine. Building on the skills they'll need for when they get promoted is more important than challenging them while they play. The real challenge can come from playing in the top flight, with teammates that aren't largely incompetent. If Samper works on his defensive game and just keeps on improving his distribution Barca B could lose every single game 10-0 and he'll improve, or they could win every game 10-0 and he'll improve. He's not a forward who has to contend with defenders who are better at tackling or a CB who has to content with pacier wingers.
Samper will be fine.
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