ebieymjunior
Senior Member
That's what happens when youngster aren't given any confidence. Good to see him play so well.
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That's what happens when youngster aren't given any confidence. Good to see him play so well.
Pepe Silvia
Active member
Yeah he did it was kinda sad to see. He didn't do anything wrong like miss a sitter or misplace passes or anything, it was being a target man up front with teammates who are unfamiliar with his timing.
It is risky for VdB to bring him to Brazil but the reward would be huge. The amount of options Spain have is just unreal.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
It was weird, I'd see him linking up well in one moment and then miscontrolling a straightforward pass in another. He isn't a technical wizard but then again neither are Negredo or Torres. Out of all of Spain's strikers, only Villa is adept technically. If I was VDB, monitoring Jese's form throughout the remainder of this season would be of importance since he has pace, goalscoring ability, and technical skill.
Confidence? He played a lot of games under Tito. What would have you expected, a starter role?
To me he remains a traitor.
Ghost
New member
But he isn't. It doesn't matter what you (or me) think.
He made a deal with Barcelona before the season. If he didn't get atleast 20 league starts in La liga he'd leave. Tito didn't play him enough and Thiago felt that he is not needed in Barcelona.
A player who leaves the club that developed him since he was a boy did not deserved what he did. He was playing regularly in a top team with some of the best midfielders in the world. If he was getting benched by Sergi Roberto (lol) i would understand him.
He was playing and his evolution was happening normally. He had severall bad games and was blasted by many of you who nowadays jerk off with him. lol. I have a very good memory.
I say he was a douchebag for leaving barça like this. Period. You can say what you want as long you don´t tell lies.
That kind of deal reminds me of Sanabria baheviour. How in the world can a coach say " hey kid, you´re gonna play 20 times as a starter no matter what. Even if i had Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas".
And the deal was not made in those terms to be fair. Rosell and Zubi were naive with the 90/18M clause. But Thiago was not loyal.
Look at Munir: he could have been gone. I´m sure there were a lot of clubs paying him more. Just like Lee. But they were grateful to the club that made them grow. Thiago was ungrateful. But that´s football.
To me ,in terms of behaviour, Thiago is nothing more than a Sanabria.
He left. It´s a pity because he is very good. But there was a great deal of disloyal and ungrateful behaviour by him and his father.
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voodoomaster
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I thought the 20 matches had something to do with a POTENTial price tag, it wasnt like he would definitely leave, that was a personal choice he made. And yes, as coura said, he is a traitor.
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Flavia
Guest
I believe the coaches and the systems make a difference there.
And the "thiago is a traitor" is back? He isn't a traitor. He was thinking of himself first, as many would. And it looks like he made the correct decision, as he is probably going to be in the wc squad. At least considering he thought Tito would be his coach this season, and Tito clearly didn't rate him.
Gnidrologist
Senior Member
He seems to be at his most dangerous when being constantly fed in advanced positions facing goal, which is something Spain rarely does up front, preferring to tiki-taka defenders to death with endless triangles, squares and one-twos around the penalty area. Costa is a classic striker, who needs a classic ''pass to forward into the box''. Don't think he is of any use to this team if he's expected to do one-twos with Iniesta.
You don´t get to decide what he is or isn´t. I have my opinion, you have a different one. As simple as that.
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Flavia
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Figo was a traitor. If every player from la masia that leaves for not being valued is a traitor, something's wrong with the way you see things.
Thiago just did what everyone say JDS should do. The difference being Thiago knows he's good enough and wasn't afraid of leaving his comfort zone.
Pepe Silvia
Active member
I think it is a bit premature to write him off having only made his debut today. VdB is a smart man, and understands the problems Barca face are similar to what Spain may face with teams anticipating a style and countering it. With Diego Costa, you are working with a wild card, and sometimes it's worth to invest in that type of contingency plan should things go south. Also, Fernando Torres wasn't exactly fit to play out of the one touch mold yet he was integrated quite nicely for a time. If VdB chooses to leave out Costa, it may not be the end of the world with so many other great options, but Costa is a really quality player at his peak and can provide some pretty amazing play so its worth it to continue the experiment for a while.
Gnidrologist
Senior Member
Yeah, my idea would be to actually make some adjustments in attacking play to accommodate him, instead of waiting for him to adapt to Barca styla walk-the-ball-into-the-net type of football. Tiki-taking is still fine and dandy for the general build up play, but having a well fed striker with a killer instinct and grit of Costa would be a huge trump against teams with triple defensive walls. Though i agree with the general sentiment that Spain really looked good and aggressive/hungry with this rejuvenated lineup, i still can't help but be annoyed to see all that possession and never ending triangles around the box with hardly any penetration in the final 1/4. Not many clear cut chances at all. Even Pedro's goal was sort of a fluke. The lack of finishing decisiveness and someone who isn't shy of shooting whenever possible seems to be a problem with both Barca and Spain.
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