Timo Werner

[malvolio]

so he is neither a LF or ST. free role? while we still have messi? it's just asking for trouble a la griezmann.

also "a better fit" and "makes sense" were mentioned before we signed FDJ...and now we are moving him around the park because he is not shinning like we hoped for.

 

[Respekt_III]

so he is neither a LF or ST. free role? while we still have messi? it's just asking for trouble a la griezmann.

also "a better fit" and "makes sense" were mentioned before we signed FDJ...and now we are moving him around the park because he is not shinning like we hoped for.

We're moving him around the park because setien and valverde refuse to drop busi... He has a position just never plays there. Also there are weaknesses in the squad we are trying to cover by shifting him around as he's one of the few midfield who can actually run.
A better example would of been griezman

 

[LABarcaFan]

I watched a lot of videos about him ...

Last year he was ST and he didn't have so good numbers. He was obvious , he was just trying for space and two CB could cut it easily.
This year he have more free role, where he is more one left or right side...

Since this his numbers are much better. His partner as striker is Patrick Shick who is real number nine in team.

Suarez will be our starting number 9, so getting Werner for that role is not bad idea.
But true is that he is not really skilled player. He is just fast and good goalscorer.

However, his price, his goal record, speed, position are better suit for us then Lautaro, because we are looking for something that was Villa,Henry...

You are right, Werner is not a technical player. Same as Lautaro, they are more of finishers. As we have discussed many times, for the next season, Suarez is going to play at his regular position so no need to add anyone up front. Next year with new board and president we can look for our # 9 of the future. Werner anyway is going to Liverpool.

He would be great to play as a inside forward with messi down the middle, Villa 2021

Werner is good for that role, but unfortunately we have Messi playing at the middle, behind our attackers.

IMO, we should also look 2-3 ahead where Messi and Suarez won't be here when deciding between Lautaro/Werner. Which kind of 9 do we want? This will probably affect the transfers made in the next years to reinforce wings. Do we want a 9 who is good at link up and can offer some of the things Firmino/Benzama can? Or someone who is a good runner in behind?

In this current setup I have absolutely no doubt that Werner is better because we need a runner. But in the future I much rather someone like Lautaro.

So its difficult really.

In the future, when Messi and Suarez won't be around we will have a lots of options to replace them. Now is not the moment to do that.

That is true. In our current setup there is no doubt that Werner is a better fit but in the future I would like a 9 with better link up play etc.

If everything else were set-up, we could afford to sign both of them and have Messi playing as CAM, just behind them. But, we have so many problems to address. I would prioritize our defense ahead of the offense.

 

[DonAK]

According to David Ornstein at The Athletic, he's talked with several clubs, but come to the conclusion that he's only going to Liverpool now or in 12 months.

So either Liverpool now or stay with Leipzig for another season and join them next year. Liverpool apparently might not be able to afford him this summer, or afford any signings in general.

Werner’s situation is quite straightforward. The Athletic understands that his wish is to either join Liverpool or stay at Leipzig for a further 12 months and revisit the matter in 2021.


The 24-year-old’s contract runs until 2023 and features a release clause that changes throughout. Sources disclose that in the upcoming trading period there is an entry point for negotiations at €47.5 million (about ?42 million), with a bid of €60 million obliging Leipzig to sell. Next year, it turns into a straight €40 million release clause before dropping to €25 million in 2022. The clause is active from the start of each summer window and expires each June 15. No arrangement applies in winter windows.


Before this season was paused in March, Werner is thought to have talked personally to Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp, Manchester United and Barcelona, while his representatives spoke to Chelsea.


Although the Germany international is said to have been flattered by such admiration from clubs he holds in the highest regard, the present destination of choice if he leaves Leipzig would be Anfield. Based on factors including the coach, team-mates, playing style and environment, Werner has identified Liverpool as the best fit — on and off the pitch — for him at this stage of his career.

 

[LABarcaFan]

Liverpool are willing to sign this summer Real Sosiedad's CB Diego Llorente who has 45 m. buy-out clause as per "Standard"
That may change their plans to sign T.Werner in the summer transfer window. It means he is going to stay with RB Leipzig for 12 more months and next summer will join Liverpool, when his release clause will drop.

 

[Messi983]

What exactly does Liverpool potentially signing a CB have to do with their interest in Werner? They can afford both.

 

[Andresito]

What exactly does Liverpool potentially signing a CB have to do with their interest in Werner? They can afford both.

I don't think they can tbf. Especially not in these times.

 

[khaled_a_d]

What exactly does Liverpool potentially signing a CB have to do with their interest in Werner? They can afford both.

Read that the covid-19 situation pretty much fucked their finances. They are not expected to spend much this summer
tbd, they are not alone

 

[Andresito]

Scored a hattrick today.

 

[Andresito]

Seems like Liverpool are out of the race.
I think he'll stay at RBL for another year unless they agree to be nice and loan him out with an obligation to buy.

 

[LABarcaFan]

so he is neither a LF or ST. free role? while we still have messi? it's just asking for trouble a la griezmann.

also "a better fit" and "makes sense" were mentioned before we signed FDJ...and now we are moving him around the park because he is not shinning like we hoped for.

He is a striker who can also play equally well at the left flank.Him being in the starting XI won't affect Messi's game. And we are moving Frenkie "around the park" because shity coaches like EV and Quiqe are willing to play grandpa Busy as a DM instead of De Jong.

 

[LABarcaFan]

What exactly does Liverpool potentially signing a CB have to do with their interest in Werner? They can afford both.

Of course they can, but they are smart. They don't want to pay even 60 mil. for Werner this summer. The reason why they are interested in Diego Llorente is that Dejan Lovren will be leaving the team and they are looking for replacement. But yes, they can sign both of them at once.

 

[vuji_31]

Well everybody is smart now days. Except raotomeu

 

[LABarcaFan]

"Bild" has reported today that Liverpool's unwillingness to meet Timo Werner's 55 M. release clause !!!!!!!!! has opened the doors for other teams to snatch the 24 - years old RB Leipzig star forward.
WOW! Club as a Liverpool are refusing to pay even 55 mil. for the best striker in Europe and most likely will sign him next summer, when his price drop. At the same time, Barcelona are still in negotiations with Italian clubs for Lautaro and willing to pay 90 m. plus a player and for Pjanic - 55 m. !!!

 

[serghei]

"Bild" has reported today that Liverpool's unwillingness to meet Timo Werner's 55 M. release clause !!!!!!!!! has opened the doors for other teams to snatch the 24 - years old RB Leipzig star forward.
WOW! Club as a Liverpool are refusing to pay even 55 mil. for the best striker in Europe and most likely will sign him next summer, when his price drop. At the same time, Barcelona are still in negotiations with Italian clubs for Lautaro and willing to pay 90 m. plus a player and for Pjanic - 55 m. !!!

Liverpool have luxuries which we don't. They have Klopp, and a highly functional team with plenty of young talent. They are everything but desperate. We on the other hand have an aging team, a board who has a hard on for hyped up South American players, young talents who are not in a very good spot for now, and no manager in the same league with Klopp.