Tito responds to Guardiola's claims

[akaranzo]

Honestly screw Pep, he tries to interfere in the Neymar deal and then steals Thiago from us and creates a smokescreen of lies and half truths to deflect away from this and he expects all of us to fall for it? We are not all irrational Rosell haters like some people on this forum are who will let their hatred of Rosell blind them, many of us can see right through the web of bullshit Pep is trying to spin.

You're kidding me right? As he said in the press conference, he told Neymar a hundred times to join Barca, if he really wanted to interfere in the Neymar transfer, then Neymar would be a Bayern player right now. And secondly, he did not ''steal'' Thiago. Thiago was leaving anyway and he would have joined Man Utd if Pep didn't offer him a spot in Bayern and it is perfectly understandable why Thiago would go to Bayern instead of Manchester United in that case.

 

[JamDav1982]

“I only asked Rosell one thing, having gone 6,000km away, that he leave me in peace. He didn’t honour his word,” said Pep. Guardiola also denied that he thinks that Tito could not manage to use players like Messi and Neymar together: “Last season he [Tito] did his best, completing the most successful season in the history of the club is enough argument for me to tell whether you have ability or no. The good players are always able to play together, and these two [Messi and Neymar] too.” “This last year there have been many things that have gone too far. Using Tito’s illness against me, that I won’t ever forget. It’s in very bad taste, I didn’t expect it. I saw Tito in New York, if I didn’t see him more it was because it wasn’t possible, but not on my part. Suggesting I want things to go badly for someone I’ve been friends with for so long? That’s in very bad taste,” said Guardiola very strongly.

I really see no reason to why Tito lashed out on Pep. Even if he was hurt by Pep not being a good friend, doing this thru the media wasn't needed, or the right thing to do. I just hope Pep let this go, or instead of talking about football, we'll be discussing things like that.

I know he said that he asked them to leave him alone while he was away, but where does he say that he repeatedly asked them while they were not leaving him alone.

The point being if he did not why did he leave it till now and make the point public?

 

[JamDav1982]

You're kidding me right? As he said in the press conference, he told Neymar a hundred times to join Barca, if he really wanted to interfere in the Neymar transfer, then Neymar would be a Bayern player right now. And secondly, he did not ''steal'' Thiago. Thiago was leaving anyway and he would have joined Man Utd if Pep didn't offer him a spot in Bayern and it is perfectly understandable why Thiago would go to Bayern instead of Manchester United in that case.

He did try to sign Neymar and said he could tell imediately it was worthless as he had his heart set on Barca.

Please dont try and make Pep out to be some god 'if he wanted him he would get him' thats not the case at all.

 

[unknowngenius10]

Here's the point I'm trying to make:

-We don't know what Rosell did to aggravate Pep in the first place
-We don't know what happened in New York between Tito and Pep, or the reasons as to why Pep couldn't visit much (which could've been on behalf of both sides)
-We don't know what Pep, Tito, or Rosell are trying to accomplish by saying these things

Yet despite all of these unknown variables you can so confidently come to the conclusion that Pep is the bad guy in all of this and that he should be accused for everything. And don't give me the whole "trying to get fair trial for both sides" story because clearly you are targeting and lashing out at Pep for this. You can't pretend you know the reasons behind it all or that the "evidence" is in your favor and anything else is speculation, because your reasoning is very much one sided and based on conspiracies. Whether or not people like Tito or Rosell is an entirely different matter and has to do with different things, but many of you are simply targeting Pep for this saga with Thiago and the press conferences with little basis and a lot of bitterness.

This exactly my whole point. If it was Tito or Rosell the one not visiting Pep on his cancer treatment, most people wouldn't have been worried about knowing "all the variables or factors." The would have had another reason to dislike Rosell and Tito. Weren't you the one lashing out agaisnt Rosell for "destroying" barca,? Even though you never cared about all these variables that could help us understand the decisions made?
That's a double standard.
Most of my posts are not anti-pep but against those who let Pep get away with things you wouldn't let Rosell or Tito get away with.
Also, in his press conference Pep stated he did visit Tito when he could,in other words, the times he didn't visit him he just couldn't . But now we know that he could only visit him once. Pep tried to defend himself against the rumors that he hadn't visited Tito by telling us half a truth. Although he did visit Tito, it was only 1 time for Gods sake.

 

[DonAndres]

Me disliking Rosell wasn't based off this, it's just his entire presidency I don't favor and I was arguing against people who would get up and start supporting Rosell just to spite Pep for the Thiago saga. Your posts come off very anti-Pep, not even trying to bring balance but just aim against Pep and victimize Tito/Rosell. If you were looking to balance both sides it'd be more reasonable to acknowledge both sides doing wrong but you clearly mask the points of the other side just to support yours against Pep.

As for the not visiting thing, there are so many factors to consider that you can't so easily blame Pep for having all that time and not using it to visit Tito. Tito was probably often busy communicating with Barca management about things and we don't know everything Pep was up to during his stay there.

 

[JamDav1982]

Me disliking Rosell wasn't based off this, it's just his entire presidency I don't favor and I was arguing against people who would get up and start supporting Rosell just to spite Pep for the Thiago saga. Your posts come off very anti-Pep, not even trying to bring balance but just aim against Pep and victimize Tito/Rosell. If you were looking to balance both sides it'd be more reasonable to acknowledge both sides doing wrong but you clearly mask the points of the other side just to support yours against Pep.

Both sides have not done wrong, Barcelona had to speak out and defend themselves and far from trying to turn people against Pep.

Pep making it public was the issue and he goaded them to respond, to have not done so would have been weak.

You can say 'well Pep had his reasons' which he may well do but why choose now, six months after the event and in public?

Why not in private where he can get his point across with damaging the club as much?

It smacks of Pep having some kind of agenda, that he doenst have much care for it damaging the club as long as he gets at Rosell.

 

[DonAndres]

Both sides have not done wrong, Barcelona had to speak out and defend themselves and far from trying to turn people against Pep.

Pep making it public was the issue and he goaded them to respond, to have not done so would have been weak.

You can say 'well Pep had his reasons' which he may well do but why choose now, six months after the event and in public?

Why not in private where he can get his point across with damaging the club as much?

It smacks of Pep having some kind of agenda, that he doenst have much care for it damaging the club as long as he gets at Rosell.

All I'm saying is, since we don't really know even half of the situation let alone the magnitude of the feud, no one should be turning their backs on Pep for whatever happened in New York or for having a rift with the people in the club. You could accuse him of wrongfully making this a public matter, but even then he's not the only one involved in it and shouldn't be hated for it.

 

[JamDav1982]

All I'm saying is, since we don't really know even half of the situation let alone the magnitude of the feud, no one should be turning their backs on Pep for whatever happened in New York or for having a rift with the people in the club. You could accuse him of wrongfully making this a public matter, but even then he's not the only one involved in it and shouldn't be hated for it.

But thats not the point. I can accept that there may be some bad blood between Pep and Rosell but why take it public and why wait till six months after the event?

I dont hate him anyway, it would be strange to hate someone but he is causing problems for the club.

Had Tito and Rosell came out and said their point and he had responded it would be Tito/Rosell that were in the wrong but the had to respond and did so without really attacking Pep in any way other than saying his version was false.

Pep is playing games here its almost irrelevant what his motive is he has deliberately tried to start a public war of words for whatever reason.

 

[KluivertsBoots]

I'm with Pep for all time for what he represents, but he will regret making this public. I won't pretend to know what his motives were, if he felt he needed to distance himself from Barcelona to solidify his new position, but it was a mistake in my opinion.

Tito would have addressed any issues with Pep as a man long ago, so his statement reeks of a bad public relations attempt on the part of the club. Rosell may has well dropped to his knees and groveled during his interview.

 

[hemakesmemessi]

People saying Barcelona had to respond because of Pep? No, Rosell had to respond. Pep attacks Rosell for something the president had (apparently?) said (using Tito's illness against him) and then Tito comes out and vents his frustrations with Pep in public.

Tito's words today are quite personal and could cause a lot more trouble. In fairness, Rosell is the only person who should of responded to Pep, and if Tito was frustrated on a personal level with Pep then Tito should have called him personnally instead of bringing the clubs and media into their personal affairs - (I repeat, Pep's words were a personal response to Rosell, vented in the media as he was responding to Rosell's apparent words attacking him personally in the media.)

 

[frostdude1]

My personal opinion is that Sandro Rosell is causing all of this.
I don't think Tito or Pep are blameless, but I think Rosell is the one who caused all of this.

 

[Rivaldo]

My personal opinion is that Sandro Rosell is causing all of this.
I don't think Tito or Pep are blameless, but I think Rosell is the one who caused all of this.

Exactly how I feel.

Although Pep definitely shouldn't have started this whole thing, Tito also never should have responded with such a personal issue and making it public. If you're upset that your friend didn't visit you enough in hospital, talk to him in person don't go to the press. I have no doubt that Rossell probably pressured Tito into speaking out.

It's all mind games if you ask me. Both from Pep and Rossell. Tito is just his puppet. They're all being idiots. I will never stop supporting but he should just drop this whole thing before it further tarnishes his legacy at the club.

 

[Cruijffista]

People saying Barcelona had to respond because of Pep? No, Rosell had to respond. Pep attacks Rosell for something the president had (apparently?) said (using Tito's illness against him) and then Tito comes out and vents his frustrations with Pep in public.

Tito's words today are quite personal and could cause a lot more trouble. In fairness, Rosell is the only person who should of responded to Pep, and if Tito was frustrated on a personal level with Pep then Tito should have called him personnally instead of bringing the clubs and media into their personal affairs - (I repeat, Pep's words were a personal response to Rosell, vented in the media as he was responding to Rosell's apparent words attacking him personally in the media.)

He had Tito's name all up in his mouth though. Tito had to respond to these accusations and set the record straight.

Pep should keep his mouth shut and worry about his own team from now on.

 

[Cruijffista]

Exactly how I feel.

Although Pep definitely shouldn't have started this whole thing, Tito also never should have responded with such a personal issue and making it public. If you're upset that your friend didn't visit you enough in hospital, talk to him in person don't go to the press. I have no doubt that Rossell probably pressured Tito into speaking out.

It's all mind games if you ask me. Both from Pep and Rossell. Tito is just his puppet. They're all being idiots. I will never stop supporting but he should just drop this whole thing before it further tarnishes his legacy at the club.

I don't want to hear anymore about it from either side.

 

[Blaugrana dude]

Exactly how I feel.

Although Pep definitely shouldn't have started this whole thing, Tito also never should have responded with such a personal issue and making it public. If you're upset that your friend didn't visit you enough in hospital, talk to him in person don't go to the press. I have no doubt that Rossell probably pressured Tito into speaking out.

It's all mind games if you ask me. Both from Pep and Rossell. Tito is just his puppet. They're all being idiots. I will never stop supporting but he should just drop this whole thing before it further tarnishes his legacy at the club.

Nothing will tarnish his legacy at the club except for joining Real Madrid. Throughout this he has been attacking Rosell. Rossell is not FC Barcelona.