darthvader7888
Banned
If he's not good enough to start over a 35 year old Puyol, then he's not what we need, as far as I'm concerned.
Again, we need a starter, not a 3rd/4th choice.
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If he's not good enough to start over a 35 year old Puyol, then he's not what we need, as far as I'm concerned.
Again, we need a starter, not a 3rd/4th choice.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
He's good enough to be consistently playing over Puyol. However in big games Puyol is the obvious choice because he provides leadership and defensive organization. You have some misguided view of what our issue is and what we need, not to mention the fact that you don't know about Mathieu in general.
darthvader7888
Banned
Puyol is 35 now, he's nowhere near as good as he used to be. We can't rely on him for big games, especially considering his (and Pique's) lack of pace and our high line. And if Mathieu isn't good enough to start over Puyol in the big games, he's not what we need, as I said before.
Of course, our pressing will alleviate the problem, but a defense of Pique/35 year old Puyol still isn't good enough. We will get exposed less than we were last season, but when we do get exposed, we're going to have problems unless we get a starter to play over Puyol in the big games.
So yes, we do need a starter. I don't see how that view is "misguided."
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DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
We're always better defensively with Puyol, his age affects how much he can play not how well. As for the lack of pace, that's not the only thing we need in a defender. Who else would you get, Luiz? I'd rather have a slow and smart defender than a fast and stupid one. Having a "world class" starting defender in the lineup instead of Puyol will change very little, positively or negatively. Trying to buy a world class CB is almost definitely not a good choice right now, absolutely knee-jerk and brainless, and would be of no use whereas a regular rotating player is something that actually provides solidity to our options.
Less exposure in defense means overall, it's not like every time we do end up getting exposed it will be a 3v2 breakaway. The pressing not only stops them from creating chances, but it makes the chances that they do create less open and less deadly. Now if you want to keep nitpicking past that and name random wild scenarios, then I don't know what to tell you. Our fullbacks will be there defending when we get exposed, making the space less open, making the likes of Puyol, Pique, and Mascherano not look like fools. Any chance they get is a regular chance, if they do end up getting an unbelievably easy and open chance then even Thiago Silva wouldn't be able to stop them from scoring. We will concede from counterattacks, period. Pressing and an organized defensive system minimizes that as much as possible, our defenders ARE good enough to handle the rest within reasonable ability, but short of getting rocket boots there is nothing more any CB can do and your demands really seem misguided and unreasonable.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Not sure about always looking better with Puyol anymore perhaps the worst defence looked against Madrid was the 3-1 home defeat that he played in and was not that great.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
That game was definitely horrible for Puyol, but we do generally look more organized with him. I'd still want him to play in big games, but we'll have to see whether he deteriorates even further this season. Even then, Mascherano/Mathieu can handle the job decently. There aren't that many other options for a transfer. Koscielny/Vertonghen are definitely not going to come, Silva/Luiz would just be irrational to spend that much on, and Mathieu has the qualities to function at Barca.
veryfatchocobo
New member
All our CB targets don't want to join us atm. wat do......
mixer
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February, 30th
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Flavia
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No, I think it's complete.
Unless you're missing Afellay and Cuenca, but their future is not decided yet
With all the friendly internationals the general consensus is that there will hardly any deals done in the 7 days apparently .
Yeah , those are the two I was thinking about .
There's a few teams sniffing around some of he other players ....Mascherano / Sanchez and Cesc , of course .
As regarding the loan players , I never thought I'd be looking forward to watching Everton or Stoke games
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