Trincão

Xaviniesta

Senior Member
It is far from dumb play like Bobo32 said.
Anyway his dribble is pretty similiar to Iniesta's in 2015. Except Iniesta had Neymar in front of him when Trincao has none (though he may want to do it all by himself)
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painful seeing that first touch and close control of neymar and then seeing what we have now with dumbele
 

Bobo32

Senior Member
This is probably a "dump play" by Messi, according to Bobo32
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Messi is one of a kind and can play differently than others. Trincao should not try to play like Messi.
But you are making a fool of yourself by not thinking before you post
That situation is another example of a player keeping his head up, slowing down, looking at his options. Messi decided to go for the shot, which he succeded at.
 

Windhook

Well-known member
His dribble was great. He knows he doesn't get much the ball and wanted to do something different rather than pass to the right wing. All in all that was so un-Barcelona moment in the game, that got me thinking why we can't play this way. If you watch that GIF few pages back you'll notice that only Dembele follows Trincao's run. The rest of them are "WTF!!! We don't play this way! Pass! Pass! Messi! Messi!"
 

Bobo32

Senior Member
painful seeing that first touch and close control of neymar and then seeing what we have now with dumbele

Yes, also painful seeing the way the other players positioned themselves, using the whole pitch and giving an easy option. Iniesta could find all four players in the frame if he wanted to when he made the pass
 

Joan

Well-known member
What's painful is seeing how players positioned themselves while Trincao was making that run. If he wanted to, he could've passed in the early stages only.

Great to see some initiative.
 

Laplacian

Senior Member
His dribble was great. He knows he doesn't get much the ball and wanted to do something different rather than pass to the right wing. All in all that was so un-Barcelona moment in the game, that got me thinking why we can't play this way. If you watch that GIF few pages back you'll notice that only Dembele follows Trincao's run. The rest of them are "WTF!!! We don't play this way! Pass! Pass! Messi! Messi!"

Huh,

Dembele was nonchalantly jogging lol
 

vegitot

Senior Member
Messi is one of a kind and can play differently than others. Trincao should not try to play like Messi.
But you are making a fool of yourself by not thinking before you post
That situation is another example of a player keeping his head up, slowing down, looking at his options. Messi decided to go for the shot, which he succeded at.

Trincao slows down then decides to take on another because he has no one to pass. Messi's shot was stopped by goalkeeper or Trincao is tackled by PSG defender is the same. No goal.
 

Bobo32

Senior Member
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Great dribble. Far better than Dembele kick and run.

Dembele is a dumb player, we all know that. He should be positioned more wide at the start and be more advanced in the end of that move.
Griezmann mostly wants the ball on foot, and he is a bit slow in his head, but in this case I can't fault him too much
What is it that you want? Puig to run with him and do an overlap? He is making himself ready for the back pass when Trincao realize he's between 5 opp.players and should get out.
De Jong is showing himself totally freee with a potential 3v2 on the right flank, what should he do after Trincao "showed initiative"? Just run mindlessly forward? Please no!

In this situation, a good player would play De Jong with the outside of the right foot in a 2v1 situation with the player who slides. Easy!
 

Bobo32

Senior Member
Xavi often talked about him constantly counting players, looking for numerical advantages
What is the situation on the left flank, and what is the situation on the right flank, when Trincao decides to advance?
I can tell you he is advancing into a 2v6, after neglecting the option for an easy 4v2 on the right flank just a second before, doing the 1-2 with De Jong.
In that 2v6 there is really no clear option for anything constructive, but he could've returned the ball to Puig and everything would be fine.
 

vegitot

Senior Member
Dembele is a dumb player, we all know that. He should be positioned more wide at the start and be more advanced in the end of that move.
Griezmann mostly wants the ball on foot, and he is a bit slow in his head, but in this case I can't fault him too much
What is it that you want? Puig to run with him and do an overlap? He is making himself ready for the back pass when Trincao realize he's between 5 opp.players and should get out.
De Jong is showing himself totally freee with a potential 3v2 on the right flank, what should he do after Trincao "showed initiative"? Just run mindlessly forward? Please no!

In this situation, a good player would play De Jong with the outside of the right foot in a 2v1 situation with the player who slides. Easy!

A good player will make an overlap run when he has all space in front. Puig is slow and afraid to make a run. A player that is as good as all of Deco, Xavi and Iniesta combined like you said is not like this. He would make run, ask for a pass then deliver a deadly cross so anyone inside the penalty era will can score lol.

Griezmann asks for the ball when he turns his back to PSG players. What would he do if he recieve a pass from that position??? Probably pass it back.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Puig should take the left sided position (I dont know where Alba is). de Jong should be supporting through the middle. Also god knows where our ST Messi is, playing sweeper perhaps.

But this one move is being way over discussed and out of context.

The team mentally didn't want to push forward with fear of yet another counter and goal. What was the score at that point, 3-1?

Trincao made the right decision. You can see nobody else wants to attack. It is what we needed 20 minutes earlier when we are getting overrun and need someone to create a spark in attack.
 

vegitot

Senior Member
Xavi often talked about him constantly counting players, looking for numerical advantages
What is the situation on the left flank, and what is the situation on the right flank, when Trincao decides to advance?
I can tell you he is advancing into a 2v6, after neglecting the option for an easy 4v2 on the right flank just a second before, doing the 1-2 with De Jong.
In that 2v6 there is really no clear option for anything constructive, but he could've returned the ball to Puig and everything would be fine.

Nope. He knows passing it back to Puig is useless because Puig can not do anything by himself. Trincao decides to test his luck rather than pass it back to an useless player in that situation.
 

Joan

Well-known member
He's attacked here for not passing the bellow at the centre for alleged 4 vs 2 while PSG had at least 6 in their half ready to cover. Would've resulted in another string of useless passes.

Puig was also 20 or so meters behind. Would've done nothing bus initiate another exchange on the left. Trincao tried and failed, but it's better than not trying. Or being overwhelmingly passive.
 

vegitot

Senior Member
He's attacked here for not passing the bellow at the centre for alleged 4 vs 2 while PSG had at least 6 in their half ready to cover. Would've resulted in another string of useless passes.

Puig was also 20 or so meters behind. Would've done nothing bus initiate another exchange on the left. Trincao tried and failed, but it's better than not trying. Or being overwhelmingly passive.

He would not be so far behind if he was not that slow or didn't even want to run at all.
 

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