UEFA Champions League 2015/16

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i_bleed_blaugrana

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You do realize that RM has the best goal differential and most points if it was a league based system? Nobody in the world pounds inferior teams like Ronaldo and Co do,so this system of yours would only benefit RM even more. And yeah Real is lucky with draws but stop overreacting. We also drew ATM last season just like you did this season. All of a sudden City is a weak team even tho you drew them every fcking year. Just look at Sport's covers. When you drew them it was City,trap for Barca. And this year it's shit about Real getting lucky,Figo touched City etc. Real drew BVB,ATM,Bayern and Juve in last few years. Stop embarrassing yourself with stuff like RIGGED etc. It happens,sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. Last few years you constantly drew City and PSG who were newborns in the UCL,getting the hang of it.

I wouldn't even care if it was Real that had the best goal differential. That doesn't change my view at all. And you're the one embarrassing yourself if you think UEFA isn't below rigging CL draws to get favorable match ups considering the shit show FIFA has been for last few DECADES.

I'm not saying it's for sure rigged but I just think this drawing system is fishy and doesn't leave alleviate enough doubt for me to be sure it's not. Coupled with some of the uncanny luck and misfortune certain teams have with draws, it adds fuel to that fire for me.

P.S. I can't remember the last time Real has had a continually tough CL campaign. They almost always face 1 maybe even 2 cakewalk ties in the knockout stages. Naming ATM, Bayern, BVB and Juve as evidence that Real aren't always lucky with draws doesn't really support that claim. Last year was the toughest CL campaign you guys have had in a looong time. And when you won la decima, you barely squeaked past BVB and were 5 seconds away from losing that final.

Another team UEFA seems not to like either is Arsenal but they have themselves to blame for a lot of those exits. Just like we do for losing to Atleti this season, like you still gotta beat the team you draw against. All I'm saying is there is too much room for luck or foul play in this setup and a more merit-based knockout stage system, I think, would eliminate some of this.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
You do realize that RM has the best goal differential and most points if it was a league based system? Nobody in the world pounds inferior teams like Ronaldo and Co do,so this system of yours would only benefit RM even more. And yeah Real is lucky with draws but stop overreacting. We also drew ATM last season just like you did this season. All of a sudden City is a weak team even tho you drew them every fcking year. Just look at Sport's covers. When you drew them it was City,trap for Barca. And this year it's shit about Real getting lucky,Figo touched City etc. Real drew BVB,ATM,Bayern and Juve in last few years. Stop embarrassing yourself with stuff like RIGGED etc. It happens,sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. Last few years you constantly drew City and PSG who were newborns in the UCL,getting the hang of it.

Stop embarassing ourselves? WTH? The fact of the matter is, you got the easiest of the three opposing teams in the semi-finals, City. When we played City, it was what, the round of 16th? There was a big difference.

BVB, Atletico, Bayern and Juventus you drew them in semi-finals. At that stage of the game, of course you will get strong teams.

When we are talking about you guys getting lucky draws, we are talking about mostly round of 16 and quarter finals draws. Look at the history and tell me you guys were not the luckiest one. It happens?? Do tell why you guys were luckier than any other team please. It is a FACT, man, don't try to deny it.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
If there is one thing agree about, its this one. Last season Barca-fans bragged about beating champions of their respective leagues like it was the ultimate test of a champion, PSG was supposedly a great team last year. This year all of the sudden, they are a second rate team? Make up your minds about PSG, please.
Im not arguing for or against the other, but there has been a big shift regarding PSG i feel.

Whether PSG has regressed or not aside, I think the fashion in which we beat them last year was a lot more convincing than how you guys beat them this year, no?

PSG was clearly the better team in both legs and you guys got lucky.
 

Yannik

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Doesn't matter who got lucky with whatever. No team in the remaining 4 play at their top level, even Atletico were atrocious in this CL before beating Barca. All 4 teams got outplayed at some point in this CL campaign, but they all managed to pull a comeback. It won't matter who scored the most goals, who received the fewest, who beat whom and how they did that.
Daily form, mentality and of course that extra portion luck will decide the winner in the end.
 

MaxY

Devil May Cry
Stop embarassing ourselves? WTH? The fact of the matter is, you got the easiest of the three opposing teams in the semi-finals, City. When we played City, it was what, the round of 16th? There was a big difference.

BVB, Atletico, Bayern and Juventus you drew them in semi-finals. At that stage of the game, of course you will get strong teams.

When we are talking about you guys getting lucky draws, we are talking about mostly round of 16 and quarter finals draws. Look at the history and tell me you guys were not the luckiest one. It happens?? Do tell why you guys were luckier than any other team please. It is a FACT, man, don't try to deny it.
I said we are lucky but that you are overreacting and acting like we ALWAYS get the easiest draw even tho we got freaking Atletico in quarter-finals last season for example. You completely missed the point which is that : 1. even tho you are right,you are overreacting 2. bleed blaugrana not realizing that system would only benefit RM even more 3. saying rigged etc even tho Zambrotta for example was drawing the balls.
 

DennyCrane

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I kinda miss Hoeness, Rummenigge has become unbearable, even if Hoeness wasn't a saint on the mic either.

:lol: , me too, and I never thought I'd actually say that. With Hoeneß, at least his statements had some substance and this whole subtle humour in blunt speech thing going for them. I really hope, though I don't really think so, that Hoeneß will at some point begin to move himself into the spotlight more to make sure that KHR stays as far away from any microphone as possible. Mr. H's occasional verbal cheapshots at RM were also a plus of course.
 
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ManusXavi

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Can someone educate me about what I am missing?
I've observed enough but there appears to be some hype for Real Madrid success

Lets see what Real Madrid have achieved over the last 60 days.
1) Real Madrid beat Barca. . . . . .Who are Barca? Poor team management has wreaked Barca.
2) Real Madrid beat Sevilla . . . . . .Sevilla who played just 6 out of 10 in their strongest and most used outfield players line-up
3) Real Madrid lose at home to Atletico Madrid
4) Real Madrid lose to Wolfsburg 0-2 away from home and 'only' because of Ronaldo were Madrid able to save themselves in the 2nd leg.
5) I wasn't aware that clearly demonstrating poor defensive tactics are not something to worry about.
 

MaxY

Devil May Cry
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City is dangerous when Barcelona draws them even tho they were new and failing in the UCL every year. When Real draws them,even tho they just kicked out 4th/5th UCL favorite PSG they are weak and it's rigged etc.
 

ManusXavi

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I'm personally confident that Man City are going to beat Madrid. I feel that Man City have improved enough to beat Zidanes lost stars
 

DrPepper

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City is dangerous when Barcelona draws them even tho they were new and failing in the UCL every year. When Real draws them,even tho they just kicked out 4th/5th UCL favorite PSG they are weak and it's rigged etc.

Maybe because there's a difference between drawing one of the strongest teams (strongest 2nd place team, though) in the Round of 16 and drawing by far the weakest team of the last 4? Let's not pretend as if you didn't know this. :lol: Not exactly rocket science.
 

MaxY

Devil May Cry
Maybe because there's a difference between drawing one of the strongest teams (strongest 2nd place team, though) in the Round of 16 and drawing by far the weakest team of the last 4? Let's not pretend as if you didn't know this. :lol: Not exactly rocket science.

Ah cmon. Real is 3rd in La Liga, not exactly setting the world on fire. We lost 2:0 to freaking Wolfsburg. Sure,we won vs Barca and FREAKING WOLFSBURG but it was a shitty Barca and a mid-table Bundesliga squad. Let's not pretend that City is far weaker than RM,that's just dumb. All 4 of the teams remaining are of a similar level.
Bayern - They barely passed the first knockout phase,they scored in the 91st minute against Juventus ffs. They weren't convincing vs Benfica either,drawing 2:2.
RM- 3rd in La Liga,shitty defence,only relies on individual talent and spark. Not convincing at all vs Roma, lost to Wolfsburg by 2 goals.
ATM - They were 0:0 with PSV after 2 legs. Yeah,you head it right. PS-FCKING V. Barely passed on penalties after shooting 8 penalties..
RM,ATM and Bayern all underperformed in this UCL campaign imo. Barcelona made a big screw-up,this was an easy UCL to win because all of the rivals aren't on their necessary level. The only way to fail was to not rotate and rest players and that's exactly what happened.
 
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Devils

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So Godin Ruled out of the first leg vs Bayern.

I swear Bayern are looking like they will win it. How lucky can they get with their opponents best players getting injured? Fuck!
 
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