Birdy
Senior Member
He should be banned ASAP
It's a meaningless pointless waste of time. If it had any merit Messi would have won it every season between 2009 and 2022 or 2023 as he's the best performer generally and the biggest talent. Voters just vote on highlights packages and hype in the media. Football people are no less susceptible to this than anyone else - probably more as they can't watch as much football as fans as it's their job.If Man City had won the semi-final vs. Real Madrid we would have a totally different conversation for BdO. That's how silly the dynamics of this award are.
Pathetico for a reason. I expect an awful game with poor football from both sides, with these racist chants making the highlights of whole game. Two disgusting and finished clubs, I hope they both lose.
I hate games like that - games where you despise both teams and want neither to be successful in the game. You can't really win but you can't lose either - you know both teams can't lose unfortunately but at least they can't both win either.I hope they both lose.
Shiton of black players in La Liga have already gone through the same shit, doubt all of them are just making stuff up.Do they really sing racist chants or just chants that Vini finds racist? Huge difference
Pathetico for a reason. I expect an awful game with poor football from both sides, with these racist chants making the highlights of whole game. Two disgusting and finished clubs, I hope they both lose.
Their fans are good but how does that reflect to their success? The most they can get in UCL is runners up and in Spain they pray for a trophy once in a decade if by any chance Madrid and Barca both have a bad season so they make use of it.Fair enough. I'm not down with the racist shit which is obviously out of order. But I can't help but admire how passionate their fans are. Definitely, one of the best sets of fans in Europe. And they can make the Wanda a cauldron of intimidation.
Any of Madrid's players try any of their normal shenanigans and their fans will make them know about it. I love that.
The quality of this fixture has been absolutely shite lately, but I look forward to it just for the hostility alone.
By far and away the worst thing about supporting Barca is that our ultras generally don't make it in to stadiums and opposition players and fans can, at times, get away with blue murder.
Exactly my point. I mean, it does play a part in team's success but those racists Atletico has on their stands have not brought them anything good.And what does the team's success have to do with the quality of the fans/atmosphere? Most of the clubs with the best fans don't even play in the CL or are one of the worst clubs in it.