Vinícius Júnior

[Haraldinho]

Vinisucks.

 

[mc_lovin]

It's clear the CL trophy brings majority of the points. Whoever between Jude and Vini is, it's well deserved.

It's not Vinicius' fault Brazil are failing. He's just the scapegoat as their biggest star. Messi went through the same phase. Brazil's problem lies within the staff area - coaching is problematic.

Messi was still phenomenal for his NT, Vini is a bum.

 

[DonAK]

Brazil would be much better if they let Rodrygo play at the LW and simply benched Vinicius until he's ready to play for them without wetting himself.

 

[KingLeo10]

Lamine is clear of all these bums.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Cant even beat Raphi 😴

 

[Birdy]

Should be Rodri.

The fact that this guy is getting the Ballon D'or and Neymar didn't is a travesty. What a waste from Neymar.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1838339270781669625

Is this a joke or something?
Rodri is like deserving this 100 times more

When this Perez-Madrid-FranceFutball mafia is going to end?

 

[Windhook]

Messi was still phenomenal for his NT, Vini is a bum.

This discussion is going sideways with the greatness of Messi.

My point is Messi was criticized in the past for delivering for Barca and failing to do the same for NT. In this context Vinicius finds himself in a similar position. 2014 WC and Copa finals failures drove Messi to international retirement. Same criticism might drive Vini to do the same.

 

[Horatio]

This discussion is going sideways with the greatness of Messi.

My point is Messi was criticized in the past for delivering for Barca and failing to do the same for NT. In this context Vinicius finds himself in a similar position. 2014 WC and Copa finals failures drove Messi to international retirement. Same criticism might drive Vini to do the same.

Vini is not in a similar position. General football public is not pointing fingers at him. His disappointing NT tenure never gets brought up.

Maybe you have Brazilian friends that told u otherwise.

 

[Joan]

They can argue who was the least bad player this season. Next season it’ll be pointless.

Yamal’s era has begun and it’s gonna last until he’s 37.

Two decades of dominance incoming.

 

[Windhook]

General football public is not pointing fingers at him. His disappointing NT tenure never gets brought up.

I'm not his advocate, I'm not willing to , but this is what the whole forum points at now with Vini's BdO win - him being shit for NT.

Media are biased for whatever reason, which I don't want to delve into.

 

[Horatio]

I'm not his advocate, I'm not willing to , but this is what the whole forum points at now with Vini's BdO win - him being shit for NT.

Media are biased for whatever reason, which I don't want to delve into.

Owh sure yeah, but this is barcaforum. But even here some have conceded it’s ok he’s winning it. But on other football platforms no one seems to be aware of what he does for Brazil. They only talk about his CL and La liga run.

 

[DonAK]

This discussion is going sideways with the greatness of Messi.

My point is Messi was criticized in the past for delivering for Barca and failing to do the same for NT. In this context Vinicius finds himself in a similar position. 2014 WC and Copa finals failures drove Messi to international retirement. Same criticism might drive Vini to do the same.

I see the point you're trying to make, but Argentine media never almost unanimously brought up benching Messi for his performances. Criticism around Messi was about not being able to finish the job getting into finals and losing.

Vinicius cannot even play at an adequate level so far in friendlies even.

Vinicius has been so bad there's been calls for his benching and letting Rodrygo play in his natural position instead.

 

[Horatio]

I see the point you're trying to make, but Argentine media never almost unanimously brought up benching Messi for his performances. Criticism around Messi was about not being able to finish the job getting into finals and losing.

Vinicius cannot even play at an adequate level so far in friendlies even.

Vinicius has been so bad there's been calls for his benching and letting Rodrygo play in his natural position instead.

Ok I didnt know that.

But yeah, did think Rodrygo was outperforming him.

But in Europe vini’s NT performance not brought up if never.

 

[Windhook]

If Man City had won the semi-final vs. Real Madrid we would have a totally different conversation for BdO. That's how silly the dynamics of this award are.

 

[Birdy]

That's Vinicius vs Lamine 23/24



That's Vinicius vs Lamine this season so far

And he is 7 (!) years younger...

He is gonna eclipse the fraud soon!!!