Nello
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Have you checked a meaning of those trophies?
1. Copa Libertadores=South American CL, where 23 out of last 27 winners are from Brasil or Argentina. So, a Champions league consisted of two countries...
2. Copa Sudamericana=Uefa cup
3. Recopa Sudamericana=South American supercup
4. Copa Argentina=Argentinian Copa Del Rey
5. Supercopa Argentina=Argentinian supercup
6. Suruga bank=Mickey Mouse trophy played between winner of Uefa Cup and Japanese leage cup winner (wtf?)
With that logic, EV has in 2 years:
1. La Liga 2018, 2019
2. Cdr 2018
3. Supercup 2018 and he has yet to play a supercup from this season
4. Copa Catalonia 2018 (like Suruga cup)
If EV will win La Liga, Cdr, Spanish supercup and Copa Catalonia, he will have a total of
9 trophies in only 3 seasons, which will make him as one of the most successful managers in Barca's history!
This is exactly how Gallardo's story sounds like.
Also, about South American football, whenever we watch Copa America or something, they play some crazy kung fu run and gun football with 110 miles per hour where every action is on a verge of incident, every tackle is on a verge of a red card and all players are running up and down like headless chickens.
Imagine coming to Barca after that where no one is running at you and the opponent has parked a bus.
** About La liga being weak, Real won a CL in 2017, 3 Months before EV's first season.
Atletico played in a final in 2016.
And RM has won it again in 2018, even though our league was the weakest ever, lol.
Why would you diminish the value of a trophy, just because it is dominated by two countries' teams? Brazil and Argentina are by far the two biggest football nations in South America. It's not like the Champions League regularly is won by Slovenian and Dutch teams.
EV will never be considered to be the best manager in our history. Again, you oversimplify way too much. EV has won two historically weak La Liga with a team whose core players have won six La Ligas previously and three champions league trophies while playing beautiful football. Gallardo took charge in a very inconsistent team, that had been relegated 4 years prior, and hadn't won a continental trophy for almost 20 years. How is that comparable? Pep Guardiola has also commented on how impressed he is by Gallardo's successful, despite the lack of continuity in the squad, River sells the best players all the time. Valverde on the contrary, has just gotten one of the best midfielders in Europe this summer. And what has he done with him? Not much if you ask me. And he has Messi, a pretty big cheat code when it comes to winning La Ligas.
And yes, La Liga has been very weak the last two years. Real Madrid finished on 76 points despite winning the CL in 2018. 76 is very low for a title contender. And last year they finished on 68.
Honestly, if you don't think there is any value in what Gallardo has achieved with River, then I don't know what to tell you. I'm not saying he will be a perfect manager for Barca, just that he's worth a shot given the current state of the team, which is awful if you ask me.
And I don't know why you try to talk Valverde up so much. Do you think he has achieved much in his two and half year here? It's like you see everything in black & white. You only see results on a paper, don't take a lot of variables and circumstances into account, and you come up with conclusions such as: "If Gallardo is the most succesfull coach at River with 11 trophies, EV must be too at Barca with his soon to be/potential 9 trophies". Meanwhile, you don't care about what players they've had at their disposal, the general state and history of the club and how the teams actually are playing and doing, not result wise.