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Convince Valverde and that's perfect but I doubt he'll do that in the next season.
Why are people so obsessed with the Champions League?
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Convince Valverde and that's perfect but I doubt he'll do that in the next season.
BarçaBarça
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He did it before Copa final with great success (best football in a long time), so maybe he has learned his lesson
Total-Football
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It is a question of rarity not diffculty.. Often times some EPL campaigns were much harder than a champions league, and some Liga compaigns too. But the nature of the competition, being a tournament, makes its winning related to other factors other than strenght (refs, luck, etc/..) and consequently winning it is more rare.
it is for the same reason people value rare gems, not because they are more beautiful or valuable, no, it is a question of rarity and human's nature affinity for rarity.
it is for the same reason people value rare gems, not because they are more beautiful or valuable, no, it is a question of rarity and human's nature affinity for rarity.
CanadianBlaugrana
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😄You’re a braver man than me wading through the waters of a Mansuck United forum.
CanadianBlaugrana
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I'm wondering would have we seen this kind of topics if we were in the final now
The answer is NO.
Stoichkov1
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At least now people will understand that I'm right when I say that cup tournaments don't show a team's quality.
Real Madrid aren't even close to be the best team in the world and they're gonna win their 3rd CL in a row, thanks to luck and referee mistakes, while we're without doubt the best team in Spain.
Zidane isn't even close to be the best manager in the world, Real Madrid played like shit in the league for the entire season and now in the CL they got outplayed by Bayern and Juve and still won. Valverde gets hate for a single match while Zidane gets credit for an embarassing league campaign and for being outclassed by Allegri and Heynckes.
And lastly Ronaldo isn't the best player in the world, he played like shit for the first half of the season, started banging goals when Real was out of the title race and played great only against PSG and Juve away in the CLs knockout matches. And he's gonna win the Ballon d'Or while another player who performed great from August to May isn't gonna win it because he disappeared in one match and when he disappears his team crumbles.
Real Madrid aren't even close to be the best team in the world and they're gonna win their 3rd CL in a row, thanks to luck and referee mistakes, while we're without doubt the best team in Spain.
Zidane isn't even close to be the best manager in the world, Real Madrid played like shit in the league for the entire season and now in the CL they got outplayed by Bayern and Juve and still won. Valverde gets hate for a single match while Zidane gets credit for an embarassing league campaign and for being outclassed by Allegri and Heynckes.
And lastly Ronaldo isn't the best player in the world, he played like shit for the first half of the season, started banging goals when Real was out of the title race and played great only against PSG and Juve away in the CLs knockout matches. And he's gonna win the Ballon d'Or while another player who performed great from August to May isn't gonna win it because he disappeared in one match and when he disappears his team crumbles.
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BBZ8800
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For all guys saying that CL is not that important and is about luck, DEAL WITH IT:
You need to have balls, courage and mental strength (and technical skills, of course) to win a CL in a sudden death matches.
Barca (we) are a team of pussies who play good against Getafe and Levante when there is no pressure and we choke all the time against big boys.
Even worse, we don't choke even against big boys. Lately we choke even against Roma.
And it is not only about Valverde.
Deal with it:
Who wins a world cup is considered as a world champion.
Who wins a CL is considered as a club's world champion.
So, Real is a world champion.
Barca is a Spanish champion.
You can twist it how much you want, but for 90% of football fans in the world, CL is the most important trophy.
We can live in our dreamland and repeat how winning against Getafe and Levante is even harder and how you need consistency (lol) and how even a CDR is a really relevant trophy.
Some of our fans live in a dreamland, that's it.
As others have said, saying how CL is not that important is like saying that Milan or Man Utd are still the biggest clubs in the world.
It has absolutely nothing with reality.
We suck, we are a team of pussies unable to play under a sudden death CL pressure.
And RM has a team of Gods in that department.
Hats off for them.
La liga: showing only technical quality.
CL: showing technical quality and a mental strength.
La liga is more about: how to figure out a trick to beat Mickey Mouse teams consistently every week.
CL is more about: how to win against Big boys.
Barca figured out a trick how to beat Mickey Mouse teams each weak, but doesn't know how to break big european boys, and we lack mental strength.
While Real doesn't know how to beat Mickey Mouse teams regularly, but figured out a trick how to beat EVERY SINGLE big European team, more or less easily, and they NEVER crumble under pressure.
So, no, we are not better no matter how some of you twist it.
We are better against Getafe, that is true.
You need to have balls, courage and mental strength (and technical skills, of course) to win a CL in a sudden death matches.
Barca (we) are a team of pussies who play good against Getafe and Levante when there is no pressure and we choke all the time against big boys.
Even worse, we don't choke even against big boys. Lately we choke even against Roma.
And it is not only about Valverde.
Deal with it:
Who wins a world cup is considered as a world champion.
Who wins a CL is considered as a club's world champion.
So, Real is a world champion.
Barca is a Spanish champion.
You can twist it how much you want, but for 90% of football fans in the world, CL is the most important trophy.
We can live in our dreamland and repeat how winning against Getafe and Levante is even harder and how you need consistency (lol) and how even a CDR is a really relevant trophy.
Some of our fans live in a dreamland, that's it.
As others have said, saying how CL is not that important is like saying that Milan or Man Utd are still the biggest clubs in the world.
It has absolutely nothing with reality.
We suck, we are a team of pussies unable to play under a sudden death CL pressure.
And RM has a team of Gods in that department.
Hats off for them.
La liga: showing only technical quality.
CL: showing technical quality and a mental strength.
La liga is more about: how to figure out a trick to beat Mickey Mouse teams consistently every week.
CL is more about: how to win against Big boys.
Barca figured out a trick how to beat Mickey Mouse teams each weak, but doesn't know how to break big european boys, and we lack mental strength.
While Real doesn't know how to beat Mickey Mouse teams regularly, but figured out a trick how to beat EVERY SINGLE big European team, more or less easily, and they NEVER crumble under pressure.
So, no, we are not better no matter how some of you twist it.
We are better against Getafe, that is true.
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henias
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I dont know how you even come into such conclusions. No one said they will want to sack Valverde because of losing a CL trophy and I believe many people want Valverde gone even if we win the treble due to his shortsightedness and mismanagement.
So your comment is complete bullshit as well.
Xtroverto
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Are you sure you are in the right forum? I guess the lack of an international Real Madrid forum attract a lot of closet meringues, they've always been a bit behind down in the meseta. I guess it is the inbreed, IQ level are rarely above 100 in the highlands of spain.
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snowy
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That is soooo confusing! how can you not like
then when he ticks all these boxes and so much more 
but even setting Ney aside, yesterday's line-up additions are exactly the type of aggressive attackers who won't crumble under pressure. Basically, anti-pussies
. They're ultra-confident, alpha types who live for the big scene, thrive on tricky plays, fast 1vs1, 1 vs 3 and 4s, play and positional switches, quick unpredictable transitions, good with both feet, etc...
They're pretty similar to Zaha in terms of attitude and resiliency and look at Wilf: he's 1.80, and weighs only 66kg. Yet, he keeps dominating the big block players in the PL, winning penalties, free kicks and forcing cards. He's also been the most fouled player in all leagues for the past 3 years. But if you really want big and physical, here, there's always ney's older uncle, Giant Bomb da Silva:
I like your idea about adding headers to our game. The more ways to score, the better! Question is, how many players would be enough and where would we put them?
I'm thinking, 1 CF striker (phasing out Suarez) and maybe 1 fast strong tall CM... so we'd get
____________________________________MATS/Cil*
_____Semedo/Pereira_______ Pique/Mina___________Umtiti/Koulibali_________Alba/Jorge Marco
___Martins/Aouar/Alena_______ Fast Tall Strong dude/Arthur/Busi_____________Coutinho/Alfonso Davies*
________Dembele/Malcolm_____ Messi/Header specialist
_____________Keita B. Dio/Kluivert smthg like this has got to have chances in the CL!Basically, opposition will get attacked from all sides, in different kind of ways. Avenues will open up and our players will score at will
BBZ8800
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I agree with you.
Anyone who says that a CL is more important than La Liga is a Madridista and has a very low IQ.
BarçaBarça
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You would sack Valverde even if we won a treble? OK mate
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