Willian

[mesiesta]

Willian is a very good player, but his normal price should be 50-55m euros nowdays. Anything above that is stupid, since that money can be spent on some young talent instead.

 

[JamDav1982]

You say: How so? Jamdav said, "Would rather pay 45m for a 'promising' player like Muniain to replace Iniesta than 100m on Coutinho". and then I never said that.

On the other hand you claim it's better to buy Munian for 45 than Coutinho for (anything more than) 100.

Very similar. Nay, don't suck at Algebtra.

He is lying and trying to back out of what he actually said.

Predicted it and he has delivered.

 

[Jombi]

Rabiot has been a starter for PSG for over 5 years now and he's still only 23.

That sort of experience and development cannot be underestimated.

He is a very, very good player. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he reaches world class levels in his peak years.

No way has he been a starter at PSG since he was 18. He was a sub for years. Nothing wrong with that at that age, but lets not exaggerate. Most people have seen enough of him to know he is nowhere near the level of Busi. Him for Busi is a huge downgrade. He's a pretty good player but nowhere near where Busi was at that age.

 

[JamDav1982]

No way has he been a starter at PSG since he was 18. He was a sub for years. Nothing wrong with that at that age, but lets not exaggerate. Most people have seen enough of him to know he is nowhere near the level of Busi. Him for Busi is a huge downgrade. He's a pretty good player but nowhere near where Busi was at that age.

It would not be Rabiot for Busi so irrelevant.

 

[Total-Football]

i would rather play dembele than bloody martial..he is as useless as a raincoat in Qatar

 

[impeh]

Sky just twitted this 20 mins ago..

SKY SOURCES: [MENTION=11286]chelsea[/MENTION]FC reject third bid in excess of £55m from [MENTION=11490]FCBarcelona[/MENTION] for forward [MENTION=20256]Willia[/MENTION]nborges88. #SSN https://t.co/RhClI3wKtd

maybe the club will leave it be and move on

if we bid for a 4th time we must have no other targets in attack

 

[Icarium]

We don't have any other targets in attack at least as per the rumors. Willian and Rabiot are the only choices. Our starting lineup is mostly unchanged. Unless suarez form returns to his peak we are not going to win CL.

 

[GOAT_SUAREZ]

maybe the club will leave it be and move on

if we bid for a 4th time we must have no other targets in attack

I thought we already made 5 bids before with the highest being 72M?

 

[Devils]

No way has he been a starter at PSG since he was 18. He was a sub for years. Nothing wrong with that at that age, but lets not exaggerate. Most people have seen enough of him to know he is nowhere near the level of Busi. Him for Busi is a huge downgrade. He's a pretty good player but nowhere near where Busi was at that age.

He's played the majority of PSG's matches over the course of a season since he was 18. That's not really normal as you wouldn't find many players who would have that many apps at a young age at a club as ambitious as PSG.

At the end of the day I have no idea what your issues are with the way Barca are tackling it's midfield issues.

We lost Iniesta and Paulinho. And Rakitic and Busi are entering their thirties.

We bought in...

Coutinho - one of the best players in the world
Arthur- One of the biggest, if not the biggest Brazilian midfield talent in the world.
Alena- Widely regarded as one of the best Masia talents in years

Trying to bring in:

Rabiot- Very experienced young midfielder who still has huge potential to become even better. Some people seem to think he wont start but can at least challenge a starting position and is millions of times way more useful than Gomes or Denis off the bench.

De Jong (probably for next year)- Similar to Arthur.

Worst case scenario Arthur, Alena and Rabiot all completely flop and we try again with De Jong next year while relying on a midfield of Coutinho, Busi and Rakitic for the majority of this season.

Highly unlikely worst case scenario while still maintaining a solid starting midfield.

 

[Andrew M]

We don't have any other targets in attack at least as per the rumors. Willian and Rabiot are the only choices. Our starting lineup is mostly unchanged. Unless suarez form returns to his peak we are not going to win CL.

I think Messi in the CL can be thrown into that. If you compare Messi and Ronaldo in the knockout phase it is night and day.

I don't mean to have a dig at Messi, but we need to find a way to get him in threatening areas closer to goal, rather than at arms length of defenders. I don't like it when he comes deep

 

[Icarium]

I think Messi in the CL can be thrown into that. If you compare Messi and Ronaldo in the knockout phase it is night and day.

I don't mean to have a dig at Messi, but we need to find a way to get him in threatening areas closer to goal, rather than at arms length of defenders. I don't like it when he comes deep

The farther away from goal the harder it is for messi to make an impact true. Most often we think making plays from deep is good because he plays beautiful there but in CL he won't get the same breathing space and I see very few lanes being made. Mostly it is an inferior tactical plan by the coach. Bringing the ball to messi in dangerous positions is a distant dream now sadly.

 

[Jombi]

He's played the majority of PSG's matches over the course of a season since he was 18. That's not really normal as you wouldn't find many players who would have that many apps at a young age at a club as ambitious as PSG.

You said Rabiot was a starter since 18 when he was mostly a sub in the first few seasons and you and BBZ8800 are hyping him as a Busi successor. I simply respond that his level is nowhere near that so we have reason to be worried if our aging players like Busi decline. Whether Iniesta, Neymar or some of our current 30+ year olds will be properly replaced still remains to be seen. I like the signing of Arthur, dont get me wrong, but the quality we have lost or are about to lose is immense. And it will be a pleasant surprise if none of Suarez, Messi, Pique, Raki and Busi show any sign of decline from their peak years in the upcoming season.

 

[JamDav1982]

You said Rabiot was a starter since 18 when he was mostly a sub in the first few seasons and you and BBZ8800 are hyping him as a Busi successor. I simply respond that his level is nowhere near that so we have reason to be worried if our aging players like Busi decline. Whether Iniesta, Neymar or some of our current 30+ year olds will be properly replaced still remains to be seen. I like the signing of Arthur, dont get me wrong, but the quality we have lost or are about to lose is immense.

If Real were after him you would be drooling.

 

[Devils]

You said Rabiot was a starter since 18 when he was mostly a sub in the first few seasons and you and BBZ8800 are hyping him as a Busi successor. I simply respond that his level is nowhere near that so we have reason to be worried if our aging players like Busi decline. Whether Iniesta, Neymar or some of our current 30+ year olds will be properly replaced still remains to be seen. I like the signing of Arthur, dont get me wrong, but the quality we have lost or are about to lose is immense. And it will be a pleasant surprise if none of Suarez, Messi, Pique, Raki and Busi show any sign of decline from their peak years in the upcoming season.

Nobody said he was Busi successor, you were the only one to make that comparison. If anything he would be a Raki back-up or successor in the future.

You said last year that Thomas Lemar was the successor to Iniesta. Barcelona signed a far superior player to Lemar. And you were going on about how Aouar is the next big midfield talent.

I'm curious what your narrative would be about our declining midfield players if we signed the likes of Lemar and Aouar instead of Coutinho/Arthur/Rabiot.

 

[Donatello]

Ditch Willian and instead go for Callum Hudson-Odoi.