World Cup 2022
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khaled_a_d
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One of the best squads in the tournament, and probably the most balanced.
Messi983
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People thought the same before Euros. Never doubt Lucho.
fergus90
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Yeah to be fair, they have had two poor World Cups in a row so maybe they are due a good one.
That group I think could throw a surprise though.
bismp
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Don‘t know if it true or if it is just pure nostalgia or the fact that i do not follow football nearly as much as did compared to back when i was a kid, but I feel that as the years pass, there are fewer and fewer stars. And this is even more evident when looking at the World Cup squads:
Brazil back then: Roberto Carlos, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, R9, Cafu, Kaka, Adriano
now: washed up Neymar? Vini? Casemiro? 38 old T.Silva? Jesus? (and that‘s the deepest squad mind you)
Spain back then: Xavi, Iniesta, Cesc, Villa, Torres, Puyol, Ramos, Casillas, Alonso, D.Silva, Mata etc
now: Pedri? Fati? Carvajal? Morata? Dinosaur Busquets?
Italy back then: Pirlo, Gatusso, Totti, Del Piero, Buffon, Cannavaro etc
now: not even qualified lol
Germany back then: Lahm, Neuer, Schweinsteiger, Klose, prime Boateng, prime Hummels, M?ller, Kroos
now: even older Neuer/Kroos/M?ller, Gnabry? Harvetz? I guess Kimmich is truly WC
England back then: Lampard, Rooney, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Cole, Terry
now: Sterling?Kane, Rashford or Foden are good i guess. Maguire? TAA? Saka?
Argentina back then: Zanetti, Cambiasso, Tevez, Aguero, prime Higuain, prime Messi, prime Di Maria, Mascherano
now: 35 old Messi, Dybala? L.Martinez? and a bunch of hard working but technically limited players
France back then: Zidane, Henry, Viera, Ribery, Abidal, Makelele
now: the only squad that can be possibly compared with Mbappe, Benzema, Varane, Lloris, Kante, Pogba etc (most of them injured anyway)
Netherlands back then: Robben, Sneijder, Van Persie
now: Depay? De Jong? Van Dijk is great i guess
I mainly used 2006/2010 squads for comparison. I feel it is all been downhill from that point on.
Nowadays who are legitimately the 5-10 biggest stars heading to the WC?
Mbappe, 35 old Messi, a washed up Neymar, KDB(truly WC), Benzema (who had just had the season of his life and deservedly won the Ballon D‘Or, but still is 35?) and then I guess Kane? Vinicius? Kimmich? Van Dijk? an even older Modric? Son?
Brazil back then: Roberto Carlos, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, R9, Cafu, Kaka, Adriano
now: washed up Neymar? Vini? Casemiro? 38 old T.Silva? Jesus? (and that‘s the deepest squad mind you)
Spain back then: Xavi, Iniesta, Cesc, Villa, Torres, Puyol, Ramos, Casillas, Alonso, D.Silva, Mata etc
now: Pedri? Fati? Carvajal? Morata? Dinosaur Busquets?
Italy back then: Pirlo, Gatusso, Totti, Del Piero, Buffon, Cannavaro etc
now: not even qualified lol
Germany back then: Lahm, Neuer, Schweinsteiger, Klose, prime Boateng, prime Hummels, M?ller, Kroos
now: even older Neuer/Kroos/M?ller, Gnabry? Harvetz? I guess Kimmich is truly WC
England back then: Lampard, Rooney, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Cole, Terry
now: Sterling?Kane, Rashford or Foden are good i guess. Maguire? TAA? Saka?
Argentina back then: Zanetti, Cambiasso, Tevez, Aguero, prime Higuain, prime Messi, prime Di Maria, Mascherano
now: 35 old Messi, Dybala? L.Martinez? and a bunch of hard working but technically limited players
France back then: Zidane, Henry, Viera, Ribery, Abidal, Makelele
now: the only squad that can be possibly compared with Mbappe, Benzema, Varane, Lloris, Kante, Pogba etc (most of them injured anyway)
Netherlands back then: Robben, Sneijder, Van Persie
now: Depay? De Jong? Van Dijk is great i guess
I mainly used 2006/2010 squads for comparison. I feel it is all been downhill from that point on.
Nowadays who are legitimately the 5-10 biggest stars heading to the WC?
Mbappe, 35 old Messi, a washed up Neymar, KDB(truly WC), Benzema (who had just had the season of his life and deservedly won the Ballon D‘Or, but still is 35?) and then I guess Kane? Vinicius? Kimmich? Van Dijk? an even older Modric? Son?
FinBarcelonafan
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Damn, this generation is very weak.
Lucho's Spain teams were/are always about the sum of all parts and not the individuals.
The squad is weak individually and thus will struggle when they need moments of individual brilliance (for example the Nations League final versus France where they competed but didn't have a match winner to swing the margin).
This squad is no different, he has a unit that have played together for years, and a midfield that trains together for both club and country.
I don't think they will win it because a team with individual brilliance can overwelm them if they are on their day. And there are 3/4 of these teams in Spains path. But I expect them to have a good showing as the Euros and past two Nations League's have shown.
Now if Fati can find his scoring timing over the next few weeks somehow, Spains chances will greatly improve.
The squad is weak individually and thus will struggle when they need moments of individual brilliance (for example the Nations League final versus France where they competed but didn't have a match winner to swing the margin).
This squad is no different, he has a unit that have played together for years, and a midfield that trains together for both club and country.
I don't think they will win it because a team with individual brilliance can overwelm them if they are on their day. And there are 3/4 of these teams in Spains path. But I expect them to have a good showing as the Euros and past two Nations League's have shown.
Now if Fati can find his scoring timing over the next few weeks somehow, Spains chances will greatly improve.
JohnN
Senior Member
I believe 2005 to 2015 was really a great period for football fans. Great teams, talented coaches and players. We have hit a bit of a bad patch now but this has happened before, so things will turn around inevitably at some point.
Argentina though are a better team collectively than the were. France is probably even stronger than back then. England did better with these players than with all that talent they had. Spain is significantly worse of course as is Germany.
Nucky
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Wouldn't suprise me if they don't make it through the group stage..
Kul_z
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Yoo, im dying.. this is embarassment on whole another level
FinBarcelonafan
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Luftstalag14
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It's a bit cringy but as long as they are not really "fake", as in people hired by the Qataris and WC officials to act like fans of these various NT teams, I think it is OK.
It is kind of like foreign/international Barca fans in a way.
It is kind of like foreign/international Barca fans in a way.
Nazario1985
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Weather is cooling down slowly which good news.
Should be around 27C/28C peek, in early December.
Should be around 27C/28C peek, in early December.
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