Ousmane Dembélé

snowy

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Dembele he came from France
Forum press said he had no chance
50 million down the drain
Dembele he scores again
oOzeman Monsoon da bringa of rain
Lezzz hope he don't flood us in Phnom Penh
scores lazzos, lacy sitters n pens
whodaman doberman here comes da pain
never mundane always insane in da membraiiin 🤪


 

Maradona37

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Its easy to wait for a player to fall out of form and then claim you were correct about them the whole time ; he's always been a great player so this comment is strange.

The only thing that can be said about him is injuries held back his career massively. Not sure when he was ever 'wank', and dismissing a whole season as a purple patch needs a reason behind it.
Not sure where I said he is a poor player. He's always been a good, talented player.

But he has flattered to deceive for many years. Also, a player can 100 percent have a good season which is surrounded by mediocrity throughout his career generally. The fact you think all it takes to prove ability is one good season is what is strange. A purple patch can absolutely last a whole season - you not understanding that raises serious alarm bells.

Anyway, we will see. I would bet a lot of money he will have regressed by this time next year - hell, he might even flop in PSG's upcoming CL games. Still be a respectable, good player yes (wank is for effect), but he definitely won't be the 'world-class player' he's being lauded as here.

Same goes for Raphinha by the way, though I wouldn't be surprised if he maintains his level as he has superior support at Barca than Dembele has at PSG. When a player suddenly starts playing way better than he did before, he can either be fulfilling his potential, or at their age (28 and 29 or whatever they are, born in 1996 and 1997) it';s more likely they might just be hitting a period of form.

Anyway, we will see. I have seen this many times before. I have talked to guys like you on players like this before. I remember being called a clown for calling Lingard a poor player, when he had his little purple patch in 2017. Then he went back to being rubbish and those people apologised to me, lol. Now obviously Dembele is way more talented than an absolute non-entity like Lingard, but point stands.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Not sure where I said he is a poor player. He's always been a good, talented player.

But he has flattered to deceive for many years. Also, a player can 100 percent have a good season which is surrounded by mediocrity throughout his career generally. The fact you think all it takes to prove ability is one good season is what is strange.

Anyway, we will see. I would bet a lot of money he will have regressed by this time next year - still be a respectable, good player yes (wank is for effect), but he definitely won't be the 'world-class player; he's being lauded as here.

Same goes for Raphinha by the way, though I wouldn't be surprised if he maintains his level. When a player suddenly starts playing way better than he did before, he can either be fulfilling his potential, or at their age (28 and 29 or whatever they are, born in 1996 and 1997) they might just be hitting a period of form.
Its because he never really had continuity since he left Dortmund until now. Its weird to say for a 27 year old but it is in fact true, his entire career has been constantly interrupted by major injuries, and its quite shocking if anything he's retained most if not all his original athleticism.

Probably he is overperforming in goal numbers atm but he will definitely continue to be one of the best wingers in the world. The same goes for Raphinha who of course is overperforming but is still amongst the best in the world on an average day.

Its easy to remember the days of old where there was much more 'technical' talent around on the wings but in modern football there actually aren't that many top wingers anymore, relative to their time these two are world-class I think. Here the chart really shows the impact of his injury issues, his best seasons are invariably the ones where he was mostly fit. Its hard to gather momentum with this kind of injury record, and not many players can come back from one like this TBF.

For that reason he still has a lot of untapped potential yet. His game is still raw, spent most of his years off the pitch than on it, and he's learning still.

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Maradona37

Well-known member
Its because he never really had continuity since he left Dortmund until now. Its weird to say for a 27 year old but it is in fact true, his entire career has been constantly interrupted by major injuries, and its quite shocking if anything he's retained most if not all his original athleticism.

Probably he is overperforming in goal numbers atm but he will definitely continue to be one of the best wingers in the world. The same goes for Raphinha who of course is overperforming but is still amongst the best in the world on an average day.

Its easy to remember the days of old where there was much more 'technical' talent around on the wings but in modern football there actually aren't that many top wingers anymore, relative to their time these two are world-class I think.
Fair enough. I always rated Dembele but to me it is clear he won't maintain this level. I have seen it many times before - football fans love to be reactionary based on form. The point about the standards being lower now though is fair. There aren't many great wingers around really compared to yesteryear, so he can still stand out.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Looks like he believes he is a top player now.

Evidently working hard and enjoying playing as his movement from the 9 in these games were so unBele like.

When he was younger and he had bigger stars, he was a bit sheepish.

Xavi played a part in this growth to be fair.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Its easy to wait for a player to fall out of form
Also, this.

Obviously if he 'falls out of form' I was right about him all along. That's the essence of my argument, surely - that he's in a period of form where he's playing way above himself. He will revert to being a good, but not excellent player.

He didn't even play that well last night to justify the wanking in here - it's another case of overrating someone's performance because he scored.

So if he doesn't maintain this level or close to it for the next 5/6 years then of course I will claim I was right about him. That's the point of my argument.

What is actually easy is to claim players are brilliant by taking their once in a blue moon good performances (that most players can have) and extrapolating it over their career as if it's the norm. While ignoring the mountains of garbage. Or as I call it, the Rashford or Hojlund special.

Form is temporary, class is permanent. Hopefully Dembele knows that and keeps working on his game, rather than eating pizzas in the dressing room.
 
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MonteCuler

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Score more goals in a single season for qsg than Neymar now :lol:

Neyclown gonna be erasered by freaking Dembele is so hilarious.
That's a freaking dumb comparison to be honest lol, Dembele is literally playing as a striker while Ney was feeding goals to Mbappe and still delivering a fair amount himself

Then there's the more important thing that a guy like Dembele can never overtake the legacy of a footballer like Neymar, not if he scores a thousand goals
 

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