1 - Marc-Andre ter Ansplant

[barcanuck]

Omitted from the national team squad, even though there are 4 goalkeepers selected this time (Neuer, Leno, Zieler, Trapp).
Have to say that's justified, gk spot in germany is way to competetive to not play great for a couple of months.

I don't think it's justified, MAts one the bloody CL and he's on a team which will be considered the greatest ever. Yoki Low just has something against him, didn't take him to the WC. Zieler and Leno don't have half the potential.

 

[Yannik]

I don't think it's justified, MAts one the bloody CL and he's on a team which will be considered the greatest ever. Yoki Low just has something against him, didn't take him to the WC. Zieler and Leno don't have half the potential.

- he HAD a great CL camapgin
- he's on a good team

and those are basically all the reasons that speak for him today.
If you're not playing good, you're not deserving of a spot.

 

[barcanuck]

- he HAD a great CL camapgin
- he's on a good team

and those are basically all the reasons that speak for him today.
If you're not playing good, you're not deserving of a spot.

And Trapp is playing good against mighty Liga 1 opposition?

And Zieler is doing a great job keeping Hannover above that relegation drop zone?

 

[DrPepper]

Ter Stegen should've gone to the World Cup and be a World Champion by now though. Zieler had no business at all being in the squad. Can't say Löw actually cares about player performances on that basis. He has his favorites and sticks by them.

 

[Yannik]

And Trapp is playing good against mighty Liga 1 opposition?

And Zieler is doing a great job keeping Hannover above that relegation drop zone?

Yes.
And Yes.

Ter Stegen should've gone to the World Cup and be a World Champion by now though. Zieler had no business at all being in the squad. Can't say Löw actually cares about player performances on that basis. He has his favorites and sticks by them.

While I agree that it was rather unjustified to take Zieler above others as 3rd choice in the WC (although a quite irrelevant matter), it is DEFINITELY justified now.
Fact is Zieler IS playing better than Ter Stegen. Fact is also Zieler HAS played better than Ter Stegen with the nationalteam.
He is more experienced, he is the least prone to slapstick action, unlike Leno, Trapp or Ter Stegen. And one thing he definitely has above Ter Stegen is that he actually dares to raise his voice against his defenders if they do fuck up. This season, the german goalkeepers are basically rated this way on their form:

Neuer > Fährmann > Trapp > Zieler > Horn > Karius > Baumann > Ter Stegen > Wiedwald > Adler > Leno > Weidenfeller

 

[Flavia]

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MAtS is having a minor dental surgery, and that's why he wasn't called up.

 

[DonAK]

Makes sense. Pretty sure there was a report in Kicker or something some months ago about him being 1st in line after Neuer.

 

[Zuza66]

Ter Stegen should've gone to the World Cup and be a World Champion by now though. Zieler had no business at all being in the squad. Can't say Löw actually cares about player performances on that basis. He has his favorites and sticks by them.

It might have had more to do with Ter Stegen's performances for our National Team so far having been nothing short of a horror show. 12 goals conceded in 3 games.

Conceding five with the U21 against Portugal didn't help the reputation either. Or slapstick goals like against Bilbao. I'm pretty sure the German fans who want him in the squad over Leno, Trapp or Fährmann are by far in the minority.

 

[khaled_a_d]

I don't think it's justified, MAts one the bloody CL and he's on a team which will be considered the greatest ever. Yoki Low just has something against him, didn't take him to the WC. Zieler and Leno don't have half the potential.

I don't know who is better than whome but potential has nothing to do with selection in NT tbh ,specially in GK position where the starting GK is the best GK of his generation and have something half a decade or more with the team
The better GK should be selected regardless the potential

 

[footyfan]

He's getting shit for something that didn't happen, that's so new to me. Next game I'm gonna criticize Neymar when he scores a goal, pointing out that it would've been so bad if he missed that chance.

That's not even close to the same situation. A forward scoring a goal is not a mistake, that's his job. But a goalie abandoning his area unnecessarily is just potential for problems. Let's not pretend it wasn't a judgment error by MAtS in the first place, Mascherano had it very easily covered. He already made an error like that against Aguero last season. He did well to recover though, don't see what in this incident makes him an absolute boss.

 

[KingMessi]

He's getting shit for something that didn't happen, that's so new to me. Next game I'm gonna criticize Neymar when he scores a goal, pointing out that it would've been so bad if he missed that chance.

I'd say it's more along the lines of criticizing Neymar for dribbling/"disrespecting" the opponent with flashy skills when he could have done something simpler. "OMG WHAT IF HE LOST THE BALL THERE!?"

 

[Zuza66]

Leno has conceded so many goals this season, not sure why he is ahead of Ter Stegen..

Not sure if serious?

Looking at all competitions:
Goals per game Ter Stegen: 1.7
Goal per game Leno: 1.35
Goals per game Trapp: 0.44
Goals per game Zieler: 1.7
Goals per game Fährmann: 1
Goals per game Neuer: 0.5

Number of goals conceded might have something to with how many games they played? Zieler's the only one who conceded as many as Ter Stegen, but he's playing for a relegation zone team. No matter what weaknesses Barca's defense has, they are still much better than Hannover's defense.

I also think he did himself a big disfavour in early 2014 saying something to the effect that if he's called up for the World Cup he's going to challenge Neuer. He can challenge Neuer all he likes all year long, but not during the World Cup tournament. That's basically announcing yourself as a trouble maker, not a good idea especially with an FA that spent millions on Campo Bahia to enhance team spirit. That's something else I'm worried about with MAtS: He seems so hell bent on upstaging Neuer that if the emergency actually occurs and he has to replace him in an important game, I fear he'll try to showboat and screw up horribly. Then there's the alleged rivalry with Leno which are both assuring is an imagination of the media - what happens in the team if both are in the squad and said emergency occurs? I'm sure the both of them will be monitored very closely in the international breaks until the Euro 2016 - and if one of them shows the slightest signs of placing himself above the team, no matter how well he's performing, he'll stay at home.

 

[gasgas]

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MAtS is having a minor dental surgery, and that's why he wasn't called up.

Why don't you floss mats

 

[Trickykid]

Not sure if serious?

Looking at all competitions:
Goals per game Ter Stegen: 1.7
Goal per game Leno: 1.35
Goals per game Trapp: 0.44
Goals per game Zieler: 1.7
Goals per game Fährmann: 1
Goals per game Neuer: 0.5

Number of goals conceded might have something to with how many games they played? Zieler's the only one who conceded as many as Ter Stegen, but he's playing for a relegation zone team. No matter what weaknesses Barca's defense has, they are still much better than Hannover's defense.

I also think he did himself a big disfavour in early 2014 saying something to the effect that if he's called up for the World Cup he's going to challenge Neuer. He can challenge Neuer all he likes all year long, but not during the World Cup tournament. That's basically announcing yourself as a trouble maker, not a good idea especially with an FA that spent millions on Campo Bahia to enhance team spirit. That's something else I'm worried about with MAtS: He seems so hell bent on upstaging Neuer that if the emergency actually occurs and he has to replace him in an important game, I fear he'll try to showboat and screw up horribly. Then there's the alleged rivalry with Leno which are both assuring is an imagination of the media - what happens in the team if both are in the squad and said emergency occurs? I'm sure the both of them will be monitored very closely in the international breaks until the Euro 2016 - and if one of them shows the slightest signs of placing himself above the team, no matter how well he's performing, he'll stay at home.

I find it more than a bit odd that you're trying to paint an image of Mats as some sort of troublemaker.
He's got an extreme sense of confidence, which has a habit of biting him in the ass while on the field. This is most definitely something he needs to learn to channel more wisely in given situations, but had it not been for his confidence and ambitious nature, I doubt he'd even be able to get through this rough patch he's currently living. His mentality (coupled with his technical skills of course) is what makes me believe he's still got a good chance of becoming a Barça legend.

I just don't for one second believe your theory about him disrupting the harmony in the team. Sure, he desperately wants to play, but so far there have been no signs that he's kicking up a fuss that he's not. His teammates in Barça have always shown him support, which I doubt they would, if he was such a troublemaker.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Then there's the alleged rivalry with Leno which are both assuring is an imagination of the media - what happens in the team if both are in the squad and said emergency occurs? I'm sure the both of them will be monitored very closely in the international breaks until the Euro 2016 - and if one of them shows the slightest signs of placing himself above the team, no matter how well he's performing, he'll stay at home.

Both Marc and Leno was in the same squad of Euro U-21 and I am not sure any problem happened
Marc himself came to Barca thinking he is no1 and found Bravo playing over him and didn't make it a problem