1 - Marc-Andre ter Ansplant

[khaled_a_d]

Thiago was replaced because we already had players in his position. System changed a bit with Lucho too.

Who will you replace ter Stegen with that is equally as skilled as him to play for Barca? That's not to say he's the goalkeeping Neymar of this generation either though, as there's a 3-4 other really good GKs at his age, although they have different skill sets and already play for a big club.

But back to topic.

Can you suggest a GK like that, that also won't cost a lot of money either? You see, that's the issue with @BBZ8800 's constant comparisons and strange percentages of how Football works. He dishes those figures out, but never talks about possible solutions.

My post mainly is reply to "Neymar of GK" .I am not suggesting to sell him .

As for replay ,which I kind feel that it is a bit unrelated to my post
Thiago was sold when we had Xavi (33) ,Iniesta(29) & Cesc (26) while Thiago was just 22
Back then ,it was huge mistake as Cesc was really bad fit ,Xavi was already starting the twilight years of his career & Iniesta wasn't that young .as soon as next year we actually had to buy someone to replace Xavi in the starting line up and Cesc in the team
That clearly emphasis how selling Thiago was a mistake .a clear one no matter how many people here try to argue against it .that said it wasn't a mistake that can't be fixed .we got Rakitic with even lower price than we sold him
I don't want MATS out .I doubt any here want him out and selling him would be a mistake .
But let's get our facts straight .no one force himself on the coach .and no team would want an unhappy player . If Lucho wants the playing order to remain the same (which while you may no like it ,it won't be unreasonable for him since it is actually working out) then MATS has no right to keep whining to change it .if he is unhappy and we can get a settlement (loan,sell with buy back option) then gr8 . but if he decides that it is time to move on after just 2 year it is on him not on the club .unless the club didn't try hard enough to keep/loan him. that would be the mistake
But just as Thiago .it is a mistake that could be fixed in the future .because again he is no "Neymar of GK" .
who? well how many of us knew MATS b4 the club actually put interest on him? how many of us actually said "Bravo is gr8 ,we should go after him" ? Someone will come to the scene if such "a mistake" happens that we can go for.

 

[Catalan Fan]

I understand his frustration, but if I was him I'd stay here for now.He's got plenty of time to fulfil his objectives, whilst picking up trophies here, with the best fucking team he's likely to every play with.

He's only a pup (for a keeper) and living the dream in Barca atm ! If he stays he could be first team GK for 10 or so yrs plus inherit Neuer's place as well.

 

[blaugrana1987]

I would change up Bravo and MATS roles next year. Put Ter Stegen in La Liga, and Bravo in Cup and CL. If he doesn't like it, sell him. Both are phenomenal keepers, but MATS is so young and talented that it would be hard to find someone as good for us in next 2-3 years.

 

[Catalan Fan]

Yeah, but therein lies the conundrum... does Bravo deserve to be effectively benched after how he's played since joining us ?

It's tricky.

 

[blaugrana1987]

No. But MATS played great as well. He is younger and he is a big talent, Bravo was for 2 years 1st choice, so it would be "fair" to give MATS same chance. Better then let him leave...

Got to say, both of those are good deal better then Valdes.

 

[KingMessi]

Yeah, but therein lies the conundrum... does Bravo deserve to be effectively benched after how he's played since joining us ?

It's tricky.

Sell Bravo and get a new backup? Or convince him with the chance to play CL?

 

[Yannik]

I think the Neymar-Ter Stegen analogy isn't too far off. It isn't that Ter Stegen is as good as a keeper, as Neymar is as a player. It's just that it is equally hard to replace him if he'd leave.
Which other goalkeeper is at his age, playing as good as him, and is realistic on the market? Can't think of one, who'd fit Barca as good as MatS does.
And even if there is one, there is no guarantee that he is actually performing at Barca, meanwhile MatS is basically proven at this point, even if he has not completely peaked yet. (Something that is most likely yet to come)

 

[serghei]

Ter Stegen is not worse than either Curtois or De Gea imo. About the same level with them. If anything, his game with his feet makes him better for us than any of those 2. If somebody right now gives me Curtois for Stegen, straight swap, I won't take it. With De Gea I would think about it more, but would still not take it probably.

 

[Alik]

If it meant I could play consistently, yes. Adriano is one of the most successful players in history, trophy-wise, but he's not having much fun out on the pitch, considering he's rarely out there.

It's rubbish to compare MAtS with Bartra, Thiago and Neymar.

But it's also rubbish to compare him with Adriano!

 

[serghei]

That's a rather dramatic change of opinion for you. You do realize keeping him will most likely lead to age discrimination (Your words), right?

That's the text-book definition of taking things out of context. I said it's age discrimination the play Stegen instead of Bravo in the league, as long as Bravo is better than him. However, if Stegen goes, in this form, and makes some great games in CL and in the Copa final, then he can play instead of Bravo because he has become better, not because he is younger. In this case, the "age" factor is not longer the reason he plays instead of Bravo.

I think it's undeniable that Ter Stegen has gotten better and that he is starting to rise to his potential. Based on talent, he is similar to Neymar (not now, but when we bought him). He can be the best keeper in the world in 2-3 years, and he is in the same position Neymar was in 2013 imo, strictly in terms of talent and ability. It's incredible we payed so little money for him.

I'd personaly go for 1 more season with Bravo - La Liga and Stegen - the rest. But if it's not possible, it's gonna be hard to make a call. Whoever pushes the club into a decision might be on the losing side of that decision though, and that could be the german since he seems to be more vocal about his frustration regarding playing-time distribution.

I also think it's not moral for Stegen to pressure the club into making him no1, as long as he hasn't earned it on the field. The question here is if he has become better than Bravo. He probably thinks so, but it's Lucho who has to answer that question.

Let's see how Bravo does vs Madrid, and Stegen vs Atletico.

 

[Egert]

Barcelona are considering loan of Marc-Andre ter Stegen (23) in summer. Could be sold if Chelsea keeper Thibaut Courtois (23) joins. [marca]

 

[DonAK]

Barcelona are considering loan of Marc-Andre ter Stegen (23) in summer. Could be sold if Chelsea keeper Thibaut Courtois (23) joins. [marca]

Marca at it again lol.

Courtois won't come unless he's made #1 so this rumour doesn't make any sense.

 

[Flavia]

Marca at it again lol.

Courtois won't come unless he's made #1 so this rumour doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, that would require selling Bravo too

Curtosis is great, but not for Barça. Both Bravo and MAtS are perfect fits, wouldn't make sense trading that for Curtosis.

 

[Slevinn]

Courtois his feet skills are nowhere near good enough for Barcelona.
Personally I would make Mats the new number 1 and sell Bravo but I also understand why a lot of people wouldn't do that. We'll need to trust Lucho's decision on this one.

 

[Flavia]

Ter Stegen declares he wants more playing time but doesn't think about leaving Barça

The goalkeeper rotation drama at Barça continues but fans shouldn't worry for now

In a recent interview, Ter Stegen made it clear that he's not happy with his limited participation and that he needs to play league games as well. Now, some of you may start blaming Stegen for not being happy by only playing Cup matches, and it reflects on Claudio Bravo, who also mentioned how he wasn't happy by playing only in the leagues.

“It is difficult because I don’t have the rhythm I would like to have,” speaking to Eurosport.de. “Every player wants to accomplish the best. That’s the same for Claudio and myself. Of course I would like to play more often."

“I am happy that I am part of the team in brilliant matches like the one against Arsenal: I can show what I am capable of doing, that is very important for me."

Finally, the German goalkeeper commented on what the future holds.
“If the situation remains the way it currently is, we have to sit down and talk. To continue like this is difficult for a keeper my age. To be honest I haven't really thought about it, not thinking about other clubs because that would be too early."



That's different from before.