Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Most of the time we didnt even have to give 100% to outplay our oppenents. MSN + magic Iniesta + terrific Alves were too strong.
1 - Marc-Andre ter Ansplant
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Most of the time we didnt even have to give 100% to outplay our oppenents. MSN + magic Iniesta + terrific Alves were too strong.
Respekt_III
Anti-everything
Why don't you include the xg (opponents) for those games as well to try quantify the quality chances our opponents had. I know you purposely misuse statistics to drive your draconian views. The rest of the guys blindly agreeing with those statistics at face value really don't understand statistics or their limitations.
IF you want to genuinely analyse his actual shot stopping performance I would suggest supplementing the right collection of statistics while also individually viewing each of those conceded goals. If you come to the same conclusion after that then fair enough however I find more people are just blaming him for not performing like a goat keeper every single game, which is highly unrealistic.
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Messigician
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Wake up call for alot of Barca fans dawg.
Probably one of the most overrated players in a long time
Batistuta9
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The reason why Ter stegen is rated is because he has the ability to produce miracle saves. He does this every year in la Liga. Even if the xg is high in those CL games, being one of the best goalies in the world, he should save a few. That's what the best goalies do. Keylor navas was outstanding during the 3 CL wins and made so many saves that should have been goals.
Respekt_III
Anti-everything
Cool, but navas didn't have to face 8 clear cut chances every game or defenders switching off entirely. He is literally the absolute least of our problems.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
Again, Xg rates Manchester City, Jesus and Sterling, so there is no way that I will use those stats.
About Ter Stegen:
Psg, Juve, Roma, Liverpool, Bayern
In these 5 matches:
Opponents 46 shots on target, 22 goals scored
Barca 17 shots on target, 1 goal scored
Barca conceded 48% of shots in these matches
Our opponents conceded 6% of shots
Xg, aliens and all conspiracy theories in the world can't excuse Ter Clown in big matches.
Batistuta9
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We definitely have more pressing needs elsewhere, so I don't mind if he stays. Just annoys me when people say he's the best in the world. He never turns up in the big games. The Bayern game was a foregone conclusion, but some of the goals against Roma and Liverpool were definitely saveable for a world class GK. Might have been the difference from us winning the competition.
Respekt_III
Anti-everything
You really are an obtuse bastard
Xg in isolation is a useless statistic as I have pointed out previously. For someone who claims to know a lot about statistic it's surprising you don't know how they work are calculated and how to read them.
Don't respond to me you are a waste of time.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
Also, our fans for years whined how Ter Clown is the best keeper and how he is unfairly treated by Germans.
In reality, he is hood only Getafes and Mickey Mouse opponents.
Whenever he faces better opponents, NT teams and CL KO matches, he is the biggest choker in the world.
For example, his first 3 matches for a German NT, lol.
He is singlehandadly able to turn WC champions into Barca, by conceding literally every shot on target:
Switzerland 3:5
Argentina 1:3
Usa 3:4
When he is on goal, every shot looks:
1. perfect
2. too well placed
3. he couldn't do anything
4. it is not his fault
Can you imagine Buffon, Becker conceding goals this way?
Imagine a match when Buffon concedes 4-5 and where we say: but it was not his fault, lol.
Buffon will always make 2-3 impossible saves in every shot.
This clown, on the other hand is constantly trying to save shots with his feet as if he is a handball GK.
Insane shitshow.
In reality, he is hood only Getafes and Mickey Mouse opponents.
Whenever he faces better opponents, NT teams and CL KO matches, he is the biggest choker in the world.
For example, his first 3 matches for a German NT, lol.
He is singlehandadly able to turn WC champions into Barca, by conceding literally every shot on target:
Switzerland 3:5
Usa 3:4
When he is on goal, every shot looks:
1. perfect
2. too well placed
3. he couldn't do anything
4. it is not his fault
Can you imagine Buffon, Becker conceding goals this way?
Imagine a match when Buffon concedes 4-5 and where we say: but it was not his fault, lol.
Buffon will always make 2-3 impossible saves in every shot.
This clown, on the other hand is constantly trying to save shots with his feet as if he is a handball GK.
Insane shitshow.
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Respekt_III
Anti-everything
I didn't ask for this I asked for champions league. To support your argument your going back to 2013? Lol seriously don't reply to me unless you address the point rather than going on misleading tangential arguments.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
All CL away KO matches are the same.
He rarely makes any saves.
And always get beaten after crosses, or when he tries to save the shots with his feet or he concedes goals from 20-30 maters.
Basically, he is good only in 1 vs 1 when he is able to close down the angle for the opponent.
Apart from 1 vs 1, he is shit in almost everything when he faces someone stronger than Getafe and Levante.
I hate his saves with feet, falling down on his ass every time, freezing.
Other gks try to make themselves big to stop the shot (by being larger).
For some reason, Mats plays as a handball Gk, trying to make reflex saves with his random feet and arms, and falling down on his ass during the process.
Buffon gets lower when the opponent gets close and then he jump with his arms to the ball.
Mats gets lower and then doesn't jump but try to make a save with his feet or shoulder.
Wtf.
He rarely jumps for the ball, this is why we used to call him Frozen/Frosty in his early days.
He takes a gamble, chooses one position and that's it.
He doesn't move or jump after that.
If the ball hits him=awesome.
If not=that's a goal.
In big matches, big players usually easily find a way around his goalkeeping style.
Extremely weird school of goalkeeping :/
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